Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Dec 2009 19:52 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces For as long as I can remember, I've been having issues with scrolling in Windows and its applications. When scrolling via dragging the scroll blob, it seemed as if Windows had the annoying habit of randomly resetting your scroll blob to its starting position, which irritated me to no end. It took me a while to figure out, but I finally know when this behaviour occurs - now I just need to know: why?!
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Cancel scroll
by jtagg82 on Thu 10th Dec 2009 20:13 UTC
jtagg82
Member since:
2009-12-10

While I can understand that it's annoying when the behaviour is not understood, I regularly find myself using this 'annoyance' as a feature.
It helps to cancel and go back to exactly where I was before I scrolled in case I'm in a long document and don't want to have to look for the spot again.

Although I never noticed the problem with the north/south aspect, I see that as the worst part of it, but then only in theory since I never actually had a problem with it.

As for the buttons grouped...I think the scrollbar looks nicer when they are on opposite ends, but that is subjective. I hardly ever use them, what with scrollwheels.

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RE: Cancel scroll
by tyrel on Thu 10th Dec 2009 20:56 in reply to "Cancel scroll"
tyrel Member since:
2009-04-03

I agree about cancelling. I actually use this frequently when reading a long document. I come across something that reminds me of something I saw before, and I want to look back real quick. I grab the scroll bar up to find what I wanted to look at (perhaps some other text, or a referenced figure, diagram, or table), hold it for a second, and then move off to the side and release in order to get back where I was before.

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RE[2]: Cancel scroll
by talaf on Thu 10th Dec 2009 21:07 in reply to "RE: Cancel scroll"
talaf Member since:
2008-11-19

I actually do that too without thinking, though I can understand why the "vertical" hotspot is a problem.

Left/right hotspot would be enough for me at least.

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RE: Cancel scroll
by sorpigal on Thu 10th Dec 2009 23:29 in reply to "Cancel scroll"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

The correct scrollbar placement IMO is grouped, but on *both ends*. That way whichever place you like to place your mouse you can get both directions. The loss of vertical space is rarely important... and you could put in simple rules saying "if smaller than foo, hide one set of arrows."

Thus solving the problem in a way everyone will love, except UI wonks.

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RE: Cancel scroll
by MamiyaOtaru on Sat 12th Dec 2009 09:29 in reply to "Cancel scroll"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

While I can understand that it's annoying when the behaviour is not understood, I regularly find myself using this 'annoyance' as a feature.
It helps to cancel and go back to exactly where I was before I scrolled in case I'm in a long document and don't want to have to look for the spot again.


I've always done that by moving the cursor to the side. And I only knew about that because cursor moving too far to the side is the only time I ever see my scrollbar snapback. I had no idea it did it when moving too far up or down, which is funny since that's the direction that bothered Thom

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