Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Dec 2009 19:52 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces For as long as I can remember, I've been having issues with scrolling in Windows and its applications. When scrolling via dragging the scroll blob, it seemed as if Windows had the annoying habit of randomly resetting your scroll blob to its starting position, which irritated me to no end. It took me a while to figure out, but I finally know when this behaviour occurs - now I just need to know: why?!
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XFCE
by JLF65 on Thu 10th Dec 2009 20:15 UTC
JLF65
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2005-07-06

I'm using Xubuntu. SO how does XFCE stack up to Thom's complaints?

Reset to initial value if outside "hotspot": Nope! You can drag the knob from anywhere on the screen and it behaves as it should. ;)

Grouped scroll buttons: Nope. They're on either end of the scroll bar. ;)

Go to where you click in the scroll bar. Nope. It does the same as EVERY OS IN EXISTENCE - it scrolls up/down one set amount. Personally, I feel Thom is wrong on this point. Scrolling to where you click is a crazy idea. How good are you at estimating where to click? What if you click too far? Several times because you suck at guesstimating where to click? The only valid response to clicking in the scroll bar is to scroll that direction a set amount.

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RE: XFCE
by phoenix on Thu 10th Dec 2009 20:20 in reply to "XFCE"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

And if you look at the scrollbar as an extension of the cursor keys, it makes sense: click above the blob is like hitting Page Up; click below the blob is like hitting Page Down.

Or should hitting the Page Up key take you to some random spot in the document? ;)

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RE: XFCE
by rycamor on Thu 10th Dec 2009 20:29 in reply to "XFCE"
rycamor Member since:
2005-07-18

Go to where you click in the scroll bar. Nope. It does the same as EVERY OS IN EXISTENCE - it scrolls up/down one set amount. Personally, I feel Thom is wrong on this point. Scrolling to where you click is a crazy idea. How good are you at estimating where to click? What if you click too far? Several times because you suck at guesstimating where to click? The only valid response to clicking in the scroll bar is to scroll that direction a set amount.


In Windows all you have to do is SHIFT-Click to go to where you click in the scrollbar.

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RE[2]: XFCE
by Jimbo on Thu 10th Dec 2009 20:53 in reply to "RE: XFCE"
Jimbo Member since:
2005-07-22

In Windows all you have to do is SHIFT-Click to go to where you click in the scrollbar.


Interesting. Apparently KDE 4.3 behaves the same way.

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RE[2]: XFCE
by TasnuArakun on Thu 10th Dec 2009 21:44 in reply to "RE: XFCE"
TasnuArakun Member since:
2009-05-24

In Mac OS X it's option-click.

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RE: XFCE
by r00kie on Thu 10th Dec 2009 21:43 in reply to "XFCE"
r00kie Member since:
2009-12-10

Did you try the middle mouse button? Works for me™
Like someone else said shift+click also jumps to where you point it to (tested with firefox).

With many programs I have scroll up/down grouped (firefox does have it like that) on the bottom and also a scroll button at the top but this seems to depend on the program, some do not have the scroll up/down grouping (skype 2.0.0.72 for example). Maybe this depends on the theme in use.

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RE: XFCE
by apoclypse on Thu 10th Dec 2009 22:23 in reply to "XFCE"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I'm using Xubuntu. SO how does XFCE stack up to Thom's complaints?

Reset to initial value if outside "hotspot": Nope! You can drag the knob from anywhere on the screen and it behaves as it should. ;)

Grouped scroll buttons: Nope. They're on either end of the scroll bar. ;)

Go to where you click in the scroll bar. Nope. It does the same as EVERY OS IN EXISTENCE - it scrolls up/down one set amount. Personally, I feel Thom is wrong on this point. Scrolling to where you click is a crazy idea. How good are you at estimating where to click? What if you click too far? Several times because you suck at guesstimating where to click? The only valid response to clicking in the scroll bar is to scroll that direction a set amount.


Not true. OSX for example does scroll to where you clicked, has no hotspot and has grouped scroll buttons. Ofcourse, Thom rather complain that use something from Apple.

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RE[2]: XFCE
by DaveDavtropen on Fri 11th Dec 2009 12:04 in reply to "RE: XFCE"
DaveDavtropen Member since:
2009-03-20

Not true. OSX for example does scroll to where you clicked, has no hotspot and has grouped scroll buttons.

All of which are customizable, just for the sake of accuracy.

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