Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Dec 2009 00:13 UTC
Gnome In the item we ran yesterday about GNOME and the GNU Project, one aspect got snowed under a little bit. It turns out a claim made in the iTWire article about the role a blog post by Miguel De Icaza was false, and even though the claim wasn't ours, I did repeat it, and therefore, should correct it too. I also need to offer apologies for not framing the opening of the article clear enough - had I framed it better, a lot of pointless discussion and name-calling could've been avoided.
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RE[4]: Be very careful
by koki on Wed 16th Dec 2009 15:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Be very careful"
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Yup. Editor OF A BLOG.

Thom, this is really weak for you... ;)

This is OSNews, a news site, not a blog. If all you wanted was to blog, your stories should not appear on the front page of OSNews, but under the OSNews Staff Blog.

IMO, OSNews has been gradually straying from its stated goal of informing its "readers with the latest news on a vast range of operating systems and computing environments, from the well-known mainstream OSes, down to small (but also very interesting technically) hobby or embedded ones". It used to be more original and about the technology per se; now if has become more of a place for soap opera-ish posts or a rehash of already existing information, both of which are of questionable journalistic value IHMO. I miss the old days...

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RE[5]: Be very careful
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 16th Dec 2009 16:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Be very careful"
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This is OSNews, a news site, not a blog.

Thank you, for informing us, longtime owners and editors of this site, what our own site is.

We used to be a glorified RSS feed. Last January, this changed. If you miss the old days, there's nothing I can do for you. We cannot be everything to everyone. We decided to cover the same topics, but in a different way. This was not an easy decision (took well over 18 months to get there), but it was made anyway.

You have the freedom to get your news elsewhere. That might sound like I don't care about what you think, but that's not what I mean. What I mean is that it is impossible to please everyone while still having fun on our own. Remember, OSNews is a volunteer effort, and the glorified RSS feed mode was not something that brought any of us any sense of fulfilment or accomplishment. A trained frakking monkey could do that. We didn't like doing it. Had we stayed on that course, we would've thrown in the towel, ending OSNews. Is that what you would've preferred?

All this is actually remarkably similar to Haiku, for which you do a lot of valuable volunteer work. How do you respond to people barging into the Haiku mailing lists, telling you that he wants Haiku to be/act like Xyz because that's what he believes Haiku should be? Are you going to give in to his every demand, or do you tell him "Sorry, but we have different plans. Haiku is a volunteer effort, so we cannot give in to your every wish"?

I can guess what you'd say.

In the end, OSNews is a volunteer effort that takes up 3-5 hours of my day. This means that OSNews should be fun for me and the other team embers, because why else would we spend so much time on it?

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RE[6]: Be very careful
by koki on Wed 16th Dec 2009 21:35 in reply to "RE[5]: Be very careful"
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"This is OSNews, a news site, not a blog.

Thank you, for informing us, longtime owners and editors of this site, what our own site is.

Well, you were the one who said that you were just blogging... So, perhaps you could change your title to Managing Blogging Editor? Stupid jokes aside, you can't portray yourself as the managing editor of a news site and then conveniently claim to be just a blogger when the potatoes burn. It's kind of mis-portraying yourself.

My comment about the (good) old days was more related to OSNews now having a different balance in the types of news; I just feel there is too much legal stuff and/or "you said this, no I said that" soap opera posts now, and a lot less exciting stuff about the actual technology and the people that make such technology happen.

I don't argue that there may have been more syndicated content in the past; but while many news posts are definitely longer now than the past syndicated posts, the added volume is in many cases a rehash of information existing elsewhere -- including verbatim quotes -- which IMO add little informational value.

In the bigger picture, OSNews seemed to have more actual hands-on reviews and definitely more interviews of people in technology (5 in 2009, 4 in 2008, 9 in 2007, 11 in 2006, 14 in 2005...), and that is what I used to find the most interesting.

Needless to say, this is all just my personal preference and you are free to totally ignore me. ;)

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