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OSNews, Generic OSes At the end of the year, mainly to shamelessly fill slow news around the holidays, OSNews usually asks the readers to share with all the other readers something about their computer setup. Since OSNews can be quite diverse when it comes to computing environments, these threads can often be quite interesting. This year, please chime in with the setup you use to read OSNews - computer, OS, software and maybe even provide screenshots or photos of your proud workspace. Has it changed a lot this year? Maybe switched browser, maybe switched OS even? Let everybody know!
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RE: My Setup
by dulac on Fri 25th Dec 2009 22:56 UTC in reply to "My Setup"
dulac
Member since:
2006-12-27

I got one too... BUT you can enhance it:

Linux Box:
Compaq Deskpro EN (10 years old; handed down to me last year)- Intel 815 chipset;
384MB SDRAM RAM (cannot be upgraded any further, unfortunately)


You should replace the 128MB simm with a 256MB one to get the missing 128MB to get the maximum 512MB the MoBo allow.

Though Crunch-Bang is excellent... You should try DEBRIS or SALIX ;) as that one can handle them.
Specially if you get the 256MB simm compatible with the one you have... or get 2 twins of 256MB and drop those.

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RE[2]: My Setup
by Happy-Dude on Sun 27th Dec 2009 03:30 in reply to "RE: My Setup"
Happy-Dude Member since:
2009-01-18

That is actually VERY good news. (I believe I did try one time to upgrade it, but it didn't work... Broken SIMM ? Or maybe it was a DIMM that I tried...)

Just to confirm: your mobo had 3 SIMM slots, right? (So I can just insert a 256 MB on one, and keep the two 128 MB ones sitting there, right? Also, do you remember which type of RAM it would be; at the moment, I think it was a 168-pin SDRAM compatible slot, right?)

Edited 2009-12-27 03:34 UTC

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RE[3]: My Setup
by dulac on Mon 28th Dec 2009 23:25 in reply to "RE[2]: My Setup"
dulac Member since:
2006-12-27

That is actually VERY good news.

Good! ;)

Broken SIMM ? Or maybe it was a DIMM that I tried...)

But I faced the same troubles.
Probably it was a SIMM with different timings...
... That is enough to lose that one or the other.
Since it all depends on the first to be checked, sometimes placing the offending one on the other extreme may solve the problem. It happens.

Just to confirm: your mobo had 3 SIMM slots, right?

It should be the same as yours. What's important (and was a cold bath not to see 1GB when I tried) is that limit of 512MB.

So I can just insert a 256 MB on one, and keep the two 128 MB ones sitting there, right? Also, do you remember which type of RAM it would be; at the moment, I think it was a 168-pin SDRAM compatible slot, right?)

I'm using it right now and the monitor is very heavy. Wait... YES... its 3 slots...
And I have replaced the 256MB/133ns by just ONE SIMM of 512MB/133ns SIMM after failing other attempts I cannot remember.
It is NOT 2 x 256 as I thought. I believe the problem was that 512MB is the BIOS limit.

Still:
- SIMMs MUST be compatible (meaning the timings SHOULD be the same like twins)
- You MAY try 100ns SIMMs IF and only they are twins of 256MB and you cannot get twins of 133ns.
- The best functional solution is to have ONE SIMM or to find a BIOS upgrade that eliminates the limitation, assuming it is not an hardware limitation (unless an hardware memory controller is in between).

I'm trying and cannot find a BIOS upgrade at HP.
And neither the Manuals.
I still have 5 options to get this Ubuntu lighter:
- Debian (Debian XFCE CD with all codecs)
- Debris (Ubuntu with Gnome over OpenBox)
- Salix (Slackware with XFCE)
- WattOS (Ubuntu with LXDE)
- #! (Ubuntu with OpenBox)
From top to down.

But turning off unused services helped allot. BTW: Check http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090504

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RE[3]: My Setup
by dulac on Tue 29th Dec 2009 00:14 in reply to "RE[2]: My Setup"
dulac Member since:
2006-12-27

Found this:

Memory modules may either be single-sided or double-sided. Since the affected units have 3 memory slots, it is possible to install 1 double-sided module and 2 single-sided modules, resulting in a a 4-sided configuration. It is also possible that the issues could occur with a configuration of 2 double-sided modules but are most likely to occur with the 1 double-sided and 2 single-sided configuration.


This means that a 256MB SIMM is read as TWO SIMS and that was your problem not my diagnosis (though it will affect performance)

The issue may occur on the following computer models configured with 4 memory sides (1 double-sided and 2 single-sided modules, or 2 double-sided modules).

EN Series ENC/XXXX/XXe/X/XXXXX (Intel 815e chipset)
EN Series SDT ENL/XXXX/XXe/X/XXXXX (Intel 815e chipset)
EN Series SFF ENS/XXXX/XXe/X/XXXXX (Intel 815e chipset)


This confirms the PC in question COMPAQ Destop EN. Mine has the label (on top, under my monitor right) of:

"ENS/SP1.0/20e/6/256cvn PORT" where:

ENS : Model
SP1.0: # of CPUs
20e : Disk size (original)
256cvn: RAM (original)

Compaq has written a SoftPaq that updates the system ROM and resolves the issue. Download the SoftPaq and read the instructions carefully before proceeding.
"ROMPaq for Compaq Models with a 686P2 or 686P3 Family ROM," Version 3.11, Revision A (or later) is available online from Compaq (SoftPaq Number SP19580).


Meaning that you problem would be overcome...
... but no reference on the 512MB limit I faced when placed just two 512 SIMMs ... Maybe that is done. Maybe it now accepts 3 x 256 (equivalente to 6 SIMMs).
Whatever the changes I'll try it later.

THE NEW BIOS:
I also found the pack, which was not directly pointed:
the SP19580 SoftPac on
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp19501-20000/sp19580.exe
and it's description on
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp19501-20000/sp19580.txt

Already downloaded both...
As it would be nice to get 768MB, or invest on a second 512MB SIMM ... and never found it before, until now. Whatever the result... Thank you for pushing me on this quest!

And Good Luck with your oldie!
May it revive a 3th time!

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RE[3]: Correction
by dulac on Tue 29th Dec 2009 19:47 in reply to "RE[2]: My Setup"
dulac Member since:
2006-12-27

COMPAQ Deskpro EN

Small Form Factor Series : Thas's the S in the ENS (small case).
You'll need a DOS partition where to make the burn of the BIOS,

A diskette has not enough size to the new BIOS and the backup of the old one. I'll temporarily use an old hard disk with DOS instead of the actual working disk. Suggest you to do the same.

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