Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Dec 2009 20:21 UTC, submitted by OSGuy
Hardware, Embedded Systems Earlier this month, Psystar suspended all sales of its hardware products, honouring the court's decision which favoured Apple. This week, Psystar has also temporarily halted sales of Rebel EFI while the former clone maker confirms the tool's legality with the court. Psystar also announced it will continue hardware sales in the coming days - with Linux rather than Mac OS X.
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Anonymous Penguin
Member since:
2005-07-06

I am not against OpenOffice or Firefox. In fact I wrote that they are a concern to Microsoft.
Let's make the following clear: I am not a Microsoft shill (as my nick should suggest) and I do not believe that Linux and OS X can be compared in any way. What keeps OS X from gaining a much larger market share is that you can't (normally) buy it and install on any PC (even if countless thousands of people in fact do).
I didn't say that Windows 7 is a Linux killer, but I said that Linux committed suicide. At the time of Mandrake 9.xx, SUSE 8.xx and Libranet I believed that Linux had a glorious future on the desktop.
Here we are, almost 8 years later and the Linux community has done all sort of mistakes, especially bad when they missed the opportunity to gain a much larger market share thanks to the huge Vista fiasco.
It is now much more fashionable than in the past to try Linux (or should I say Ubuntu?), but at least 90% of people who try go back to Windows or OS X in no time.
In the past people who tried Linux were much more motivated, and the percentage of those going back to Windows was much smaller.

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dldiamond Member since:
2009-06-10

but I said that Linux committed suicide. At the time of Mandrake 9.xx, SUSE 8.xx and Libranet I believed that Linux had a glorious future on the desktop.
Here we are, almost 8 years later and the Linux community has done all sort of mistakes, especially bad when they missed the opportunity to gain a much larger market share thanks to the huge Vista fiasco.

How about giving some examples? What have they done that has been such a big mistake. Seems to be getting more and more usable as the years go by to me.


It is now much more fashionable than in the past to try Linux (or should I say Ubuntu?), but at least 90% of people who try go back to Windows or OS X in no time.

90% is a big claim. Care to back that up? What specifically is causing them to go back.

Actually I would say that Ubuntu today is a much better choice than Mandrake was in the early 2000's. I used to hate the fact that you couldn't just edit the config files. They had a warning on the top that they would be overwritten if you tried to do that.

I would never use a distribution that forced me to use their custom gui tools. I wanted to know how to use Linux, not Mandrake specifically.

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systyrant Member since:
2007-01-18

What I believe hurts Linux the most is lack of applications people want to use. While the pool grows it's still fairly small. It's also nice to see some of the open source alternatives becoming more mainstream.

One of the things I've always thought would be important to Linux's growth on the desktop is getting those good applications to work across platforms. In that area I'm seeing progress.

I think what's happened with Linux is people had far to many expectations of it overtaking Microsoft. The truth is that what Linux has accomplished is waking up the 800-pound gorilla. Now the fight is on. I'm not gonna say Linux is winning or in the end it will dominate. I think as time goes on though we will see Linux on more and more desktops.

As for Vista. Linux didn't fail to take advantage of Microsoft's gaff. Linux distro's failed to take advantage of the gaff. So that we are in agreement with.

And my final thought. I've installed Linux on several computers for people who just wanted to surf the web and check e-mail. These were older people and for some this was the first time they ever used a computer. Other than one person they are all still happily using Linux (Ubuntu). One of them has even starting playing around with Linux on another computer and learning about it.

While it's only my opinion I think the Linux user base is growing, but it hasn't reached the tipping point. I don't see that happening for awhile though.

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Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06


While it's only my opinion I think the Linux user base is growing, but it hasn't reached the tipping point. I don't see that happening for awhile though.


Probably it is growing in absolute numbers but not in percentage (of desktop users).
As to the future, who can tell? But we have seen this trend (Linux not gaining more market share) for a long time now.

Edited 2009-12-31 16:18 UTC

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tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

What I believe hurts Linux the most is lack of applications people want to use.

What applications does Linux lack?

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