Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 31st Dec 2009 01:41 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Just before Christmas Songbird 1.4.0 was released, and a new fix versions was released today as 1.4.3. Songbird now supports MSC storage devices and CD ripping, bringing the app one step closer to replacing iTunes for some users. What's particularly interesting is that Songbird now specifically pushes their product against users of Android, Nokia and Palm smartphones -- which is something I also suggested a few months too. Hopefully Google, Nokia, and Palm will get behind the small team in San Francisco to help out the cause, since it's also on their best interest too.
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RE: Awful
by WereCatf on Thu 31st Dec 2009 06:45 UTC in reply to "Awful"
WereCatf
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2006-02-15

I've always found it silly to integrate a full freaking web-browser with a music collection manager/player. It's a whole lot of unneeded stuff, especially since I doubt anyone actually uses it for browsing the web, instead opting for a separate browser.

I still use Songbird, it's less of a memory hog than iTunes, but it's still awfully slow and seems to actually be more of a CPU hog, especially scrolling the list of songs you've got almost hurts.

I'd ditch it if I could, but I haven't found any other player with a similar UI. They all try to look like Winamp and I hate the Winamp UI. I like having a clear view of all of my songs, a search for whenever I want to listen to a particular song, and so that I can sort my songs by the score I've given them.

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RE[2]: Awful
by Eugenia on Thu 31st Dec 2009 06:50 in reply to "RE: Awful"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I personally use iTunes. It has 3-4 small bugs, but other than that, it does the job perfectly for me.

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RE[3]: Awful
by WereCatf on Thu 31st Dec 2009 07:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Awful"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

iTunes would be good if it wasn't Apple product and if it wasn't so god damn resource-heavy :/ It seems it's impossible to get a plain music player/manager, without browsers, without video playback, without kitchen sink..

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RE[2]: Awful
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 31st Dec 2009 20:33 in reply to "RE: Awful"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I'd ditch it if I could, but I haven't found any other player with a similar UI. They all try to look like Winamp and I hate the Winamp UI. I like having a clear view of all of my songs, a search for whenever I want to listen to a particular song, and so that I can sort my songs by the score I've given them.

Winamp was one of the major losses I was forced to deal with in my switch to Linux back around 2006. I never did like the idea of a media library, that's what my damn file system is for--it's all nicely organized by genre, band, year/album, and finally song.

I don't know how Winamp's UI is not clear, as you load files (typically, in my case, an album) into a playlist and don't have to worry about a bunch of useless metadata all over the screen about all the songs in your collection. Of course, since WA5 Windamp does provide that pointless "library" functionality, so you can have it either way.

Winamp is, IMO, the best. Though Audacious seems to be the next best thing.

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RE[3]: Awful
by WereCatf on Fri 1st Jan 2010 15:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Awful"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Winamp was one of the major losses I was forced to deal with in my switch to Linux back around 2006.

I only know of XMMS, but I think it's more or less a direct clone of Winamp. I know there are others too, but I don't know the names.

I don't know how Winamp's UI is not clear, as you load files (typically, in my case, an album) into a playlist and don't have to worry about a bunch of useless metadata all over the screen about all the songs in your collection. Of course, since WA5 Windamp does provide that pointless "library" functionality, so you can have it either way.

The problem with Winamp is that I don't do playlists. I like to have my whole music collection right there, every single song, and I play them in random order. Oh, I also have the habit of rating my songs and ordering my collection based on the rating, with the best songs at the top and easily accessible. Whenever I want to play a particular song which isn't in the view I just click on the search field and type in the name, doubleclick the song, and clear the search again. Winamp however insists on always creating a new playlist whenever I do that and then I have to import all of my songs again. It's really annoying.

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