Linked by Kroc Camen on Fri 1st Jan 2010 15:36 UTC
Opera Software HTML5 Video is coming to Opera 10.5. Yesterday (or technically, last year--happy new year readers!) Opera released a new alpha build containing a preview of their HTML5 Video support. There's a number of details to note, not least that this is still an early alpha...
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RE[2]: Opera....
by mckill on Fri 1st Jan 2010 20:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Opera...."
mckill
Member since:
2007-06-12

sorry. but you're way off. WK doesn't need to actually be mobile, that's why it's getting so popular, a full browser that can run on mobiles.

webkit isn't tied to apple, they do dedicate a lot of money to the project with their coders, it also hasn't stopped a number of other companies using webkit and releasing things on their own schedule.

there is a clear difference between webkit's release cycle and Safari's release cycle.

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RE[3]: Opera....
by wumip on Fri 1st Jan 2010 21:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Opera...."
wumip Member since:
2009-08-20

sorry. but you're way off. WK doesn't need to actually be mobile, that's why it's getting so popular, a full browser that can run on mobiles.

You are missing the point. I didn't say it needs a mobile version. I said there's no WK for mobile. That is, there is no single WK engine for mobile. It's all a bunch of incompatible forks.

webkit isn't tied to apple, they do dedicate a lot of money to the project with their coders, it also hasn't stopped a number of other companies using webkit and releasing things on their own schedule.

The Webkit project is mostly run by Apple. Other companies have released WK based browsers, such as Nokia. And guess what, they created a fork which ended up miles away from Apple's WK, so they had to go back to the drawing board and do it all over again.

there is a clear difference between webkit's release cycle and Safari's release cycle.

You are missing the point again. Apple runs the WK project. As an example, Nokia forked WK and made their own mobile browser. But it was so troublesome to both work on their own fork and implement all the changes Apple added to the main WK code, so Nokia's browser ended up a completely separate fork which they had to throw away and start from scratch because all their changes were impossible to merge back since WK and Nokia's fork had evolved far away from each other.

The "one mobile engine to rule them all" is the wet dream of ignorant people who think it's just a matter of checking out the codebase and making a browser. It's much, much harder than that because Apple is moving WK in a certain direction, and if your plans deviate even a tiny bit from that, you'll end up with an incompatible fork.

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RE[4]: Opera....
by KugelKurt on Fri 1st Jan 2010 23:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Opera...."
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple runs the WK project.

Totally wrong.

As an example, Nokia forked WK

Wrong. Nokia's Qt and S60 ports are maintained in the main WebKit repository.

it was so troublesome to both work on their own fork and implement all the changes Apple added to the main WK code, so Nokia's browser ended up a completely separate fork which they had to throw away and start from scratch because all their changes were impossible to merge back since WK and Nokia's fork had evolved far away from each other.

You have a colorful imagination.

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RE[4]: Opera....
by Delgarde on Sat 2nd Jan 2010 08:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Opera...."
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

The Webkit project is mostly run by Apple. Other companies have released WK based browsers, such as Nokia. And guess what, they created a fork which ended up miles away from Apple's WK, so they had to go back to the drawing board and do it all over again.


Nokia is the first "other company" that comes to mind as a user of WebKit? How about, you know, Google? Maker of that Chrome browser people occasionally mention here?

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