Linked by Kroc Camen on Fri 1st Jan 2010 15:36 UTC
Opera Software HTML5 Video is coming to Opera 10.5. Yesterday (or technically, last year--happy new year readers!) Opera released a new alpha build containing a preview of their HTML5 Video support. There's a number of details to note, not least that this is still an early alpha...
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RE[4]: Opera....
by wumip on Sat 2nd Jan 2010 17:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Opera...."
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You keep thinking that things work in the real world as they do in rosy-red theory land.

Fact 1: Apple does control the project in practice. Even if this changes, Webkit will still only be controlled by a couple of major contributors, most likely Google and Apple. Despite Nokia's size, they ended up with a broken fork, and had to start from scratch. For smaller players, Webkit will never be within their control. When even Nokia can't pull it off, how would others be able to?

Fact 2: You end up with forks in practice. Look at Nokia again.

Fact 3: Not only does the quality vary depending on the port, but each port will eventually either have to become fully forked, or work will have to be thrown away to be aligned with the main Webkit project, which is run by at most a couple of major players. Right now, Apple is basically the owner.

Fact 4: Indeed, there is more to a browser than the browser engine. Webkit is a not at all easy to work with, and when you start integrating with platforms, creating your own UI, etc. you quickly end up with a separate and incompatible fork.

So as you can see, Webkit is no easy solution. It's hard, requires a lot of work, and unless you are a giant like Google or Apple, you will forever be at the mercy of the Webkit "owners".

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RE[5]: Opera....
by KugelKurt on Sat 2nd Jan 2010 22:17 in reply to "RE[4]: Opera...."
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Did you even look into the WebKit repository? Those ports are not forks!

Why do you insist on your claims even after being proved wrong?

Nokia never put much effort into the S60 port of WebKit. They are only now putting effort into a port and that's the Qt port.

Even if Apple controlled WebKit: What exactly would be bad about it?

Edited 2010-01-02 22:28 UTC

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RE[6]: Opera....
by wumip on Sat 2nd Jan 2010 23:21 in reply to "RE[5]: Opera...."
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Did you even look at the real world, and how the various ports are doing? Either your Webkit browser moves further apart from Apple's Webkit (the main WK development), or you become a slave of Apple's needs and release cycles. Maybe one or two major companies (Google is a good candidate) can wrestle some control away from Apple, but even Nokia failed miserably, ended up with a crappy fork, and had to throw away their work and start all over.

I didn't say there's necessarily anything bad about Apple controlling WK. It probably is if you need a mobile browser and want to compete against Apple, though.

There are tons of smaller players who will be at the mercy of the main WK maintainer (Apple).

WK is not the answer to your mobile browser wet dreams.

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