Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jan 2010 20:01 UTC
Internet Explorer It would appear that Microsoft will finally take standards compliance in the browser world seriously, after dragging its feet for years. Back in November 2009, the Redmond giant already revealed that Internet Explorer 9 would come with CSS3 and HTML5 support, and now the cup runneth over, as Microsoft has requested to join the W3C's SVG Working Group.
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no longer the leader
by JoeBuck on Wed 6th Jan 2010 20:12 UTC
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2006-01-11

I think Microsoft's position has changed because they can no longer assume that everyone just has to clone whatever they put out. With smartphones, Safari, Chrome, and Firefox, there's no win for Microsoft in being different or having IE-only features; they'll just be seen as bugs. When you are no longer the leader, there's no point in doing anything other than having your people just code to standards.

Netscape was the same way: they didn't care about CSS or HTML standards when everyone ran them, they only started to care when they lost the lead.

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RE: no longer the leader
by echo.ranger on Wed 6th Jan 2010 21:45 in reply to "no longer the leader"
echo.ranger Member since:
2007-01-17

I think Microsoft's position has changed because they can no longer assume that everyone just has to clone whatever they put out. With smartphones, Safari, Chrome, and Firefox, there's no win for Microsoft in being different or having IE-only features; they'll just be seen as bugs. When you are no longer the leader, there's no point in doing anything other than having your people just code to standards.



EXACTLY! Now that we (finally) have Internet devices that aren't computers in the traditional sense (tablets, smartphones, etc...) making inroads in the consumer sector, standards may actually matter more than proprietary "wow factor" extensions that cause fragmentation.

Now that MS isn't the sole proprietor of all things Internet (from a consumer standpoint), we might be able to see them play nice in the standards game for a change.

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RE: no longer the leader
by werpu on Thu 7th Jan 2010 07:11 in reply to "no longer the leader"
werpu Member since:
2006-01-18

I think Microsoft's position has changed because they can no longer assume that everyone just has to clone whatever they put out. With smartphones, Safari, Chrome, and Firefox, there's no win for Microsoft in being different or having IE-only features; they'll just be seen as bugs. When you are no longer the leader, there's no point in doing anything other than having your people just code to standards.

Netscape was the same way: they didn't care about CSS or HTML standards when everyone ran them, they only started to care when they lost the lead.


Actually Netscape did care about standards back then the problem was that the standards were very basic so Netscape and Microsoft added a lot of their own stuff additionally to the standards.
Both Netscape and Microsoft fullfilled the standards in their browser versions to 100%, back then.

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