Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jan 2010 20:01 UTC
Internet Explorer It would appear that Microsoft will finally take standards compliance in the browser world seriously, after dragging its feet for years. Back in November 2009, the Redmond giant already revealed that Internet Explorer 9 would come with CSS3 and HTML5 support, and now the cup runneth over, as Microsoft has requested to join the W3C's SVG Working Group.
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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by smashIt on Thu 7th Jan 2010 10:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
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They sat on OASIS for the ODF specification, knew that it didn't fulfill the requierments of being suitable for Microsoft Office - but did they contribute *ANYTHING* so that it could be transformed into a first class file format for Microsoft Office? of course not. They sat by and did nothing - and when the format was finalised all they did was bash the OASIS group for having a format that didn't address all the Microsoft features (where the hell were you Microsoft when you could have provided input in the design phase?!).

what should they have done in your opinion?
make odf an ooxml clone and render it virtualy unimplementable for everyone else?

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RE[4]: Comment by Kroc
by lemur2 on Fri 8th Jan 2010 01:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Kroc"
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what should they have done in your opinion?
make odf an ooxml clone and render it virtualy unimplementable for everyone else?

Microsoft's software is awful, I agree, but it is not intrinsically un-implementable.

All that needs to be done is for it to be specified, and it can be implemented in other products.

The objective from the outset for ODF was to make an open specification for a document storage format that anyone could implement. Even Microsoft. Royalty free. Microsoft were invited to participate, to give input on what needed to be included in the format specifications in order to satisfy the storage requirement for Microsoft's own Office products, and Microsoft chose to not co-operate.

Microsoft sat through every meeting when ODF was being formulated, and said not one word the whole time.

This incident with SVG is entirely similar. An open standard for scalable graphics (capable of being animated) was being formulated, with a view that anyone could implement it, royalty free. Microsoft made no input. The standard was agreed, and later expanded with additional functionality. Microsoft refused to implement it.

Now, here we are, ten years later, and Microsoft finally want to say something about it.

Talk about recalcitrant. When it comes to standards (which all may implement), Microsoft define that word.

Edited 2010-01-08 01:46 UTC

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