Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Jan 2010 20:01 UTC
Internet Explorer It would appear that Microsoft will finally take standards compliance in the browser world seriously, after dragging its feet for years. Back in November 2009, the Redmond giant already revealed that Internet Explorer 9 would come with CSS3 and HTML5 support, and now the cup runneth over, as Microsoft has requested to join the W3C's SVG Working Group.
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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by reez on Sun 10th Jan 2010 13:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
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You do realize that CSS3 and HTML5 are draft standards, right? Is your definition of a "decent" browser to mean one that ships with unfinished standards?

I've worked with IE8 and I've had very few problems with it. I really think a lot of this IE bashing is carried over from the IE6 days.

As for trying to replace Flash with (draft) HTML5 it won't make a difference until Google switches youtube over. Google is actually in the best position when it comes to ridding the world of Flash but they seem to be taking their sweet time.

Yes, you can and should use HTML5. Here is why:
"Finished" is a big deal... You'll be able to use HTML5 long before then.(snip)

It is estimated by the editor that HTML5 will reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012. That doesn't mean you can't start using it yet, though. Different parts of the specification are at different maturity levels. Some sections are already relatively stable and there are implementations that are already quite close to completion, and those features can be used today (e.g. <canvas>). But other sections are still being actively worked on and changed regularly, or not even written yet.

You can use some of them now. Others might take a few more years to get widely implemented. Here are some sites that might help you work out what you can use in the meantime:


If you know of any more (or if you have some yourself) then add them to the list! If there are some on the list that aren't very useful compared to the rest, them remove them!

The main reason is that HTML5 will become a recommendation, as soon as all bigger browsers support it. This won't happen until IE also adopts it (or it market share shrinks to a negligible size). So yes, IE needs to have HTML5 support to be decent!

Edited 2010-01-10 13:30 UTC

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