Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 11th Jan 2010 08:10 UTC
Multimedia, AV I followed the hype: Reddit, Slashdot's front page, months of thumbs up on my blog and various video forums by Linux users for OpenShot. Given that I'm longing for a usable Linux video editor since 2003, and given that OpenShot version 1.0 had just been released, I naturally gave it a go, by also downloading its provided dependencies on my Ubuntu Linux 9.10.
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RE: A common problem
by macinnisrr on Mon 11th Jan 2010 14:56 UTC in reply to "A common problem"
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2009-11-12

Well, five years ago I would have agreed with you, although multimedia on Linux has come leaps and bounds since then. I'm a professional entertainer, and I have been using nothing but oss for the last three years. I have made 6 albums on Ardour (though I've never used much midi), several videos on Cinelerra, and countless posters, packaging, and merchandise designs with GIMP and Inkscape. Now, there certainly were things that I had to relearn when switching from Windows/Warez (when I started out my business showed a net loss, so there's no way I could have afforded Cubase, Adobe CS, or ProTools), but in the end a person can do anything on Linux that can be done (albeit in perhaps a more user-friendly way) on Windows. I've actually found Mac to be my particular sore spot. While I love some of the software that you can get only on a Mac (Logic and FCP to name a couple), in general you end up either spending twice as much as MS folks for the same functionality (and warez is harder to find), or there are no free options if you decide you want to go that route (unless you want to compile everything from ports).

But I digress, the whole point of the article is that Openshot is not ready for 1.0, which I totally agree with. And although I love Cinelerra feature-wise, I have to concede that it's probably the ugliest UI I've ever seen in a piece of software that wasn't made pre-1994 (not to mention that it's a pain in the ass to compile).

Don't believe that you can do multimedia with oss? check out dickmacinnis.com. All FOSS (even the website - made with Kompozer).

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RE[2]: A common problem
by DerGenosse on Mon 11th Jan 2010 16:31 in reply to "RE: A common problem"
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2010-01-11

Don't believe that you can do multimedia with oss? check out dickmacinnis.com. All FOSS (even the website - made with Kompozer).


No offense, but your website looks like ass. And given the fact that the content is largely courtesy of Google and ReverbNation, I really wouldn't put it forth as an example that you also can make websites with FOSS.

Besides, you miss the point. I don't think that anyone doubts that you can produce multimedia with FOSS. The trouble is that you just can't do it well. FOSS for multimedia production may be good enough, but good enough almost always doesn't cut it in the real world, which is the place that doesn't exist according to fervent FOSS advocates.

If you're a semi-pro or a pro that earns his living with multimedia production of any kind, then why would you be dumb enough to endure the pain of dealing with FOSS multimedia production software? If someone, for example, wants to break into Visual Effects and get a compositing job, is she ill-advised to learn by using Blender or Cinelerra? Hell yes! Instead, she should use the tools that are used in the business, like Combustion or Nuke, both of which are available as Learner Editions at no cost.

I really hate this ubiquitous tagline: "You can do that with FOSS, too!" At least the greater half of all FOSS software seems to be made with this in mind. The end-result: glorified, but horrible proof-of-concepts. So, sure, you can somehow produce multimedia content with FOSS, but who would want to?

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RE[2]: A common problem
by Googol on Tue 12th Jan 2010 01:03 in reply to "RE: A common problem"
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2006-11-24

OK I checked that link. Why am I thinking Atari Teenage Riot could do that on an Amiga 500 .. err 20 years ago? Because they could ! ! ! -- And did.

Way to go dude... btw check ATR's vids out.. (before you flame - lol)

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RE[3]: A common problem
by Googol on Tue 12th Jan 2010 01:31 in reply to "RE[2]: A common problem"
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2006-11-24

uh.. it isn't a 500 - it is an ST, of course, my bad...

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