Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Jan 2010 23:52 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard today announced a three-year $250 million partnership to simplify IT environments through a wide range of converged hardware, software, and professional services solutions. This is a broad agreement with many components, building on the 25-year Microsoft-HP partnership, which works toward new models for application delivery, hardware architecture, and IT operations. The goal is to deliver the "next generation computing platform" by leading the adoption of cloud computing.
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Wasted Money
by Mapou on Thu 14th Jan 2010 04:28 UTC
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It's sad to see those heavy hitters wasting money on a project that is bound to fail. Now is not the time to build up an infrastructure for cloud computing. The computer industry is in a very serious crisis. The current multicore/multithreading approach to parallel computing is a disaster in the making. Using last century's erroneous Turing Machine-based paradigms to solve this century's massive parallelism problem is pure folly. Intel and AMD know it but will never admit it because they've got too much invested in the old stuff. Too bad. They will lose the coming processor war.

The truth is that the thread concept is the cause of the crisis. There is an infinitely better way to build and program computers that does not involve threads at all. My advice to Microsoft and the other big dogs is this: first invest your resources into solving the parallel programming crisis before attempting to work out cloud computing. Otherwise be prepared to lose a boat load of dough. When that happens, I'll be eating popcorn with a smirk on my face and saying "I told you so".

Edited 2010-01-14 04:45 UTC

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RE: Wasted Money
by Yamin on Thu 14th Jan 2010 05:57 in reply to "Wasted Money"
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can i have some of what you're smoking?

How do you turn a simple initiative to simply management of cloud computing. Most businesses will not be using Azure to solve complex parallel problems. They might use it as a simple way to host databases and web apps.

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RE[2]: Wasted Money
by Mapou on Thu 14th Jan 2010 07:00 in reply to "RE: Wasted Money"
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Most businesses will be using cloud computing to run parallel applications in the future. Why? because that is where computing is going. Why should any business invest millions in a system that is not built from the ground up to support parallel applications in a secure and reliable environment? And why should anybody invest in infrastructure that is bound to be obsolete the minute it becomes operational? That's pure lunacy.

The industry has an unprecedented opportunity to abandon a flawed and incredibly insecure software paradigm and do things right for a change. But I am not holding my breath. It's a sure bet they're going to f*ck it up the best they can, as they've been doing for the last half century.

I say it's time to throw away all that old uncomfortable and flimsy furniture and change to something better. But, by all means, if you can get a piece of that 250 million, do not let me stop you. Just don't say you weren't warned when some unknown startup pops out with a solution that blows everybody out of the water, Microsoft, HP and Intel included. And there shall be much weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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RE: Wasted Money
by fithisux on Thu 14th Jan 2010 14:35 in reply to "Wasted Money"
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I agree that they are wasted money. they should put their money on standardizing hardware interfaces, so as to help users overcome the driver problems and proprietary drivers. Drivers should be provided by OS or by third parties by using hardware in a standard manner, like USB, Bluetooth etc. We have enough technology to make devices present the OS with all the necessary information (independently from their construction). for example a USB printer should allow the generic driver to configure itself like

Say what protocol uses to communicate, what PDL is using and how many trays and what papers it provides without using vendor specific drivers. The same holds for GFX cards. This way MS can write on its own better crossplatform drivers for Windows/WinCE. Novell can do the same and more players can come into the OS market or market driver bundles. Cloud Computing sounds good but it has much lower priority and could be good to run inside corporates.

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RE: Wasted Money
by Stephen! on Fri 15th Jan 2010 16:06 in reply to "Wasted Money"
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It's sad to see those heavy hitters wasting money on a project that is bound to fail.

Microsoft likes to waste money. That much seems obvious from those Vista commercials last year.

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