Linked by Kroc Camen on Sun 10th Jan 2010 14:27 UTC
Podcasts The round table changes again this week, Kroc Camen is joined by Tess Flynn and David Adams--sorry, no Thom this time. We discuss the mobility of personal computation machines once more with the fresh topics in the news this week. Google's Nexus One phone, Palm's developer announcements, some Microsoft / HP thing that happened or something, and the sound of inevitability: the Newton Apple Tablet.
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RE[2]: Weak info on Palm
by elgeb on Fri 15th Jan 2010 08:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Weak info on Palm"
elgeb
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Ok, fair enough, I can understand the idea of casual and can certainly live with inaccuracies, in particular during live discussions. This can work well, even very well *if* someone in the mix can actually step in, defend an opposite view and a healthy debate can ensue.

But the tone was ranging from definitive to mocking, with no one correct any of the cliches accumulated. It turned into an unwarranted execution. Maybe was the mix of speakers to homogeneous?

I long thought of OSNews that way: the place to find news about OSes & platforms overseen by the general media for various reasons.
The debaters seemed all acquired to Apple & Android, infatuated with their iPhone or their Droid, disregarding that neither of these platforms has shown much innovation recently (live wallpapers? what a live changer!). Don't get me wrong, as a geek, I love my G1 that I keep using alongside my Pre, but there is not much groundbreaking in it in terms of UI, and the ideas it brought often raise more questions.
For instance, that activities chain, allowing me to go back to my previous activity, killing apps as memory is needed seemed great at first. Then in practice, I noticed that I do want and need to jump back and forth, go from podcast to web to email to podcast and back to web, while listening to that podcast. I never know what's running, except when my podcast stops while I'm browsing the web, not to mention the apps being constantly launched for some unpredictable reasons in the background, often making my device crawl while I use it for something else. This concept was probably good 5 years ago, when memory was so expensive & limited, like my G1's. But now that smartphone have as much memory than some netbooks, this is no longer a necessary compromise.

webOS on the other hands has been able to come out of the grave a year ago, and delivered since, past the iPhone level in terms of UI. The cards metaphor is a game changer for multitasking (and 3D games can be carded during a game), while synergy makes me take out my Pre even when I'm in front of my computer or have my G1 in hand and I need to find info about someone: what else -computer included- lets me access my friends details from Google/Facebook/LinkedIn in a single place?

It seems to me that while Palm certainly has to catch up with Apple & Android on many front (apps, UI speed, some features), Apple & Android have to catch up with Palm in many other areas, UI in particular, where Apple made virtually no progress since the introduction of the iPhone (if you exclude copy & paste, I guess...).

So casual discussion, ok, but maybe the entire staff has been missing quite a bit on the mobile front, despite talking almost only about mobile phone during that podcast. I still am disappointed about the missed debate opportunity, the narrow opinions and the lack of wider view of the mobile world.

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RE[3]: Weak info on Palm
by Kroc on Fri 15th Jan 2010 09:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Weak info on Palm"
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2005-11-10

I will bring up your points in the next podcast. We can only do the best that we can do with what’s on the home page to discuss. That means that I have to often wear hats that I’m not good at wearing. I know relatively little about the mobile platforms and I’m having to talk about it regardless—some shows we’re going to be on the ball and some shows we are not, depending on how well versed the speakers are on the topic. If we had to discuss web-development then I’d be able to talk the hind legs off of a donkey.

We would like to have more informed opinions on the show to correct us, but it’s difficult getting people to come forward to be on the show. Simply put—we’re trying to do the best we can with no resources and three/four regulars. We can’t be spot on all the time with those limitations. Thom is writing 90% of the news here, and I’m producing the podcast. We need to be better informed by you--the readers--via the comments and articles you write.

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