Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Jan 2010 23:00 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Legal Ah, a lovely bit of news that to help us start the weekend off with positive thoughts! A UK jury has unanimously acquitted Alan Ellis, founder and administrator of the invitation-only OiNK music bittorrent tracker. This means that his 2 year-long trial has finally come to an end - there's no more room for appeal.
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Oink, oink
by quackalist on Sat 16th Jan 2010 11:41 UTC
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As an ex-user of oink I was very happy to hear the news.

Although, I've a few thousand CD's I rarely buy any now and never, never will, buy digital downloads and get most of my music torrenting. Don't give a monkeys about the legality and though I'm 54 I hope to see the the day when they all go bankrupt. Hope, but doubt it will happen ;) .

I would buy CD's if around £5 but seeing a classical or jazz CD for £16 or so just makes me want to vomit.

Just saying.

Edited 2010-01-16 11:44 UTC

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RE: Oink, oink
by darknexus on Sat 16th Jan 2010 13:58 in reply to "Oink, oink"
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If you don't agree with it, don't consume the content. The problem is, given the way these executives seem to be thinking (or not thinking), you make it worse by pirating deliberately and then not buying. They aren't thinking of new models, all people like you are going to do is encourage them to come up with yet more DRM to try and screw everyone over. More DRM, more ridiculous laws, and more utterly foolish litigations. What you are doing will not help the situation at all as long as those fools have control of the record labels.

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RE[2]: Oink, oink
by SReilly on Sat 16th Jan 2010 21:23 in reply to "RE: Oink, oink"
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I disagree entirely. Pirating music actually helps the artists in ways that are not directly visible. Everything we can do to lessen the stranglehold the Recording Industry has over music creation is good.

The Recording Industry are nothing more than glorified loan sharks. Let me give you some examples of what regularly happens to recording artists when they first get recognized.

Say band A starts getting a really large local following or their latest demo gets heard by an important music agent. Either of these two scenarios will bring them to the attention of one of the large Labels or one of the subsidiaries, who will approach them with an offer. That offer usually includes a contract binding the band to exclusively record their next three (if they are lucky) to seven (if they are really screwed) albums with that Label, a financial loan and if they are really dumb, they may end up signing away the rights to their own work.

So band A has a recording contract. They use the financial loan to record and promote a new album and here is where the Label starts showing it's true colours. Firstly, recording artists see a very small percentage from the sales of an album, usually about $0.50 from every $20+ sale, which instantly goes to paying off the original loan. When the band starts touring, they start to see a larger percentage of the proceeds but until the original loan is paid off, they still aren't getting any cash in the bank, usually leading to another loan.

You might think that isn't all that bad, and in many ways you would be right, but for one factor in all of this. If a band only gets to see about $0.50 of every sale, who gets the rest of the money? The Label does. Now, I've heard Label executives talk about the need to pay for packaging and promotion but that can't seriously justify the appropriation 90%+ of an album's sales. In effect, that money can only go to one place, strait into the pockets of the Label.

The problem is not just that Labels don't actually create the product they are selling, they rip off the creators on one hand and the public to whom they sell too on the other hand.

The best way to support a band at the moment is to go and see live shows. Downloading their releases and/or passing them around so that more people will listen to it and start going to live shows doesn't do any real damage to an artist's pay check. The only really damage it does is to the greedy Labels and frankly, that group of blood sucking vampires needs to learn a lesson or two about how to treat both the creators of it's products as well as how to treat consumers.

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