Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Jan 2010 17:03 UTC
Internet Explorer France has echoed calls by the German government for web users to find an alternative to Microsoft's Internet Explorer to protect security. Certa, a government agency that oversees cyber threats, warned against using all versions of the web browser.
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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by Nelson on Mon 18th Jan 2010 20:08 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Every browser has it's own quirks, Mozilla's are just as funky as any of IE's.
IE8 also has a quirks mode for IE5/6 level compatibility.

Microsoft's only crime with IE6 was neglecting it's development for so long after it was released. At the time it was released, IE6 had superb support for standards.

People partake in this revisionist history to use to prop up their idealist view of how the web should be, it does not make it true though.

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RE[4]: Comment by Kroc
by bert64 on Mon 18th Jan 2010 20:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Kroc"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

MS encouraged developers to code to proprietary IE extensions rather than to the subset of standards supported by browsers of the day... They also encouraged users to totally ignore other browsers and code only for IE.
Many of these non standard applications are now incompatible with any current browser, IE8 quirks mode doesn't always work with them and sometimes its necessary to disable many of the new security features.

They also intentionally neglected to update their browser for many years and severely handicapped progress on the web. Had it not been for firefox, it's likely they never would have updated anything either.

If you wrote a standards compliant application and tested it with multiple browsers, then it would run on any browser today and people wouldn't be locked to IE6.

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RE[5]: Comment by Kroc
by nt_jerkface on Mon 18th Jan 2010 21:32 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Kroc"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

MS encouraged developers to code to proprietary IE extensions rather than to the subset of standards supported by browsers of the day... They also encouraged users to totally ignore other browsers and code only for IE.


Which browsers would those be? The ones that collectively had ~5% share at the time? Maybe we should go back even farther and blame Netscape for getting complacent which allowed for the IE takeover.

Firefox 1.0 didn't come until late 2004. IE had already taken over which is why so many companies used it as an interface for quick and dirty internal apps.

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RE[5]: Comment by Kroc
by WorknMan on Mon 18th Jan 2010 21:47 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Kroc"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

If you wrote a standards compliant application and tested it with multiple browsers, then it would run on any browser today and people wouldn't be locked to IE6.


Well, it's easy to say that now, when you have technologies like AJAX and Flash to play with. But what other options besides ActiveX were there in the mid-to-late 90's when a lot of this stuff was built? If you needed something like a treeview control with right-click functionality, there just weren't a whole lot of other options back then. Even Mosaic didn't exist yet, and Netscape was playing the same game as MS. (Anybody remember the LAYER tag?)

Now it's pretty much a given that those who coded to IE6 are going to have to update their sites sooner or later, but that's just the way it goes.

Edited 2010-01-18 21:49 UTC

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