Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd Jan 2010 17:06 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Taking a break from reporting on the latest netbook or phone rumours, Engadget posted an article yesterday about several elements in desktop operating systems writer Paul Miller finds outdated. While there's some interesting stuff in there, there's also a lot to discuss.
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I do agree with SoulBender's last point: I find it somewhat amusing that the OP's last two points -- or, rather, the optimal solution to those problems -- are basically how unix-like OS's work now. For the last one, when I read that, I said to myself, "congratulations, you just invented apt." (Well, part of it's function, anyway.)

I'm talking about something a little different than apt. I don't really have time to get into it, but my idea is to have sort of a 'software and update center' that doesn't require humans to package apps, and could alert you when updates are available (and even push them to you in real-time if you want), configurable on a per-application basis. Think of it as RSS for applications ;)

There are some apps I'd like to have updated the same day that a new version is released, some apps I NEVER want to update, and some apps to update immediately, but only if there's a security-related issue. And still there are others that I want to be able to put on a list that will only update when I go check. I don't want to be stuck with a system where I'm waiting for some dude to update my app on the repository whenever he gets around to it. And I sure as hell don't want some process updating every app on my system in one go.

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tylerdurden Member since:

You are trying to reinvent the wheel.

Apt, yum, et al all support the behavior you just listed. It takes a couple extra configuration steps, granted you still have to deal with dependencies which force updating... but that is something you can't get around unless your RSS can magically add pixie dust to make dynamic libraries irrelevant for the apps linked against them.

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WorknMan Member since:

Apt, yum, et al all support the behavior you just listed. It takes a couple extra configuration steps

Maybe they can, but what I'm talking about is a scenario where a developer puts a new version of their app online, updates an RSS feed, and then you could have the new version immediately. You wouldn't have to wait for humans to package it up and put it on your distro's repository.

Of course, I am told this would never work on Linux systems because of the different package managers and ways they are set up (something I'm sure could be overcome if distros were committed to working together and solve the problem), but it would definitely work on Windows. Many applications already have the ability to auto-update themselves, so it's not like dependency checking would be a problem that isn't already being addressed by these apps.

What I'm talking about is making this functionality a part of the core OS, so all apps use the same set of APIs and it could be managed centrally.

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