Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 24th Jan 2010 16:22 UTC, submitted by Dale Smoker
Linux LWN.net founder and kernel contributor Jonathan Corbet offered an analysis of the code contributed to the Linux kernel between December 24 2008 and January 10 2010. 18% of contributions were made without a specific corporate affiliation, 7% weren't classified, and 75% were from people working for specific companies in roles where developing that code was a major requirement. "75% of the code comes from people paid to do it," Corbet said.
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I'm confused...
by jakesdad on Sun 24th Jan 2010 17:51 UTC
jakesdad
Member since:
2005-12-28

How is this a bad thing?

It's still a community project.

I look out my home windows to my town and guess what, there are companies and businesses. You know what they are doing? Paying people in the community in which I live. I and most other people consider these companies part of the community. The community would be upset if the businesses left. Go to any city, town, municipality in the US that has had all the businesses leave it and you will see a decimated community.

I don't see how this is undermining the community. It seems to be extending it. The companies have the resources to apply the code to their products and extend the usefulness of the code to the community at large. But now complaints are levied when more companies develop the code for their products and pay coders to do it. I would think that developers now have time to focus on the code since they are now paid to do it. They aren't doing it as a side job or a hobby. Focus can create better code. Being paid can also facilitate purchases of gear that can lead to knew projects for the community.

But whatever... Seasons change, people don't.

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RE: I'm confused...
by Brendan on Mon 25th Jan 2010 05:31 in reply to "I'm confused..."
Brendan Member since:
2005-11-16

Hi,

How is this a bad thing?


Is Linux "free"?

If a company like Intel is paying programmers to write code for Linux, then where do you think that cash comes from? If Intel adds a small amount to the price of each CPU to cover this cost, then everyone that buys an Intel CPU is paying for (a very small part of) Linux.

If 100 hardware companies add a small amount to the price of their hardware to cover the cost of paying for Linux developers; then maybe a complete computer costs $1000 instead of $999, where the extra $1 is helping to pay for Linux development.

If you buy some cheese at an online shop that happens to pay Red Hat for support, then maybe a tiny part of the price of that cheese ends up (indirectly) paying for Linux development.

It's like there's a tiny hidden "Linux tax" built into the price of lots of different things, where you pay this "Linux tax" whether you use Linux or not.

So, how much of your cash has (indirectly) gone into Linux development? It's very hard to guess what Linux is costing you, but it definitely isn't "free".

Of course none of this is "bad" (and the "Windows tax" is probably a lot worse).

The only thing that's really "bad" here is stupid people who expect something for nothing. These stupid people should be forced to spend a few hours each year doing unpaid work - maybe making meals and doing housework for those unpaid Linux volunteers responsible for the other 25% of Linux development. :-)


- Brendan

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RE[2]: I'm confused...
by nt_jerkface on Mon 25th Jan 2010 07:24 in reply to "RE: I'm confused..."
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

These stupid people should be forced to spend a few hours each year doing unpaid work - maybe making meals and doing housework for those unpaid Linux volunteers responsible for the other 25% of Linux development. :-)


Screw that, send them to work camp for 6 months to write manuals and help files. We'll call it the software entitlement re-education camp. Constantly barrage them with inane feature requests and hit them with a cane if they complain about having to work late into the night on a diet of Mountain Dew and Cheetos.

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RE[2]: I'm confused...
by siride on Mon 25th Jan 2010 15:37 in reply to "RE: I'm confused..."
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

If you follow that line of reasoning, everything has a "tax" for some other corporation or technology. You are basically pointing out the utterly uninteresting fact that the money you give to pay for something is in turn spent on paying other people to do things.

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RE: I'm confused...
by nt_jerkface on Mon 25th Jan 2010 06:52 in reply to "I'm confused..."
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


It's still a community project.


It's a community of professional corporate developers contributing because they are paid to. That's a far cry from the volunteer techno-hippie collective that most people assume it to be.

I was actually quite happy to see this information get a lot of press. The million man army of volunteer GPL programmers is really a myth and needs to be exposed.

Programming is difficult and for the vast majority of software trained professionals to get paid for it to be completed. GPL revenue models aren't viable for most software products and thus Stallman's plan for a GPL only world needs to be thrown in the trash bin.

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RE[2]: I'm confused...
by boudewijn on Mon 25th Jan 2010 12:43 in reply to "RE: I'm confused..."
boudewijn Member since:
2006-03-05

"I was actually quite happy to see this information get a lot of press. The million man army of volunteer GPL programmers is really a myth and needs to be exposed. "

You are quite wrong, and the way you bring your point makes you offensively wrong.

The vast majority of people working on free software are unpaid volunteers. I have worked on free software since 1993 and only now have a job where I will be paid for working on KOffice (and I helped found the company just to be able to get paid to work on KOffice). But guess what? It's not for the project I'm maintaining (krita), so when I work on that it's still unpaid volunteer work.

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RE[2]: I'm confused...
by dylansmrjones on Tue 26th Jan 2010 11:26 in reply to "RE: I'm confused..."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

It's very much still a community project. And your lame attempt at astroturfing doesn't change that.

There are many volunteers in the *nix-world and FLOSS. Besides that there has never been a myth of FLOSS being all hippie and that.

That's merely an image MS tried to spread some years ago with the help from SCO-lovers. Some in USA may believe in that myth, but the rest of the world has never heard of said myth.

Software is essentially an unsaleable commodity* (though some haven't realized that yet). Services however can be sold, which is what is happening today more than sale of software.

And no. I'm not a religious linux-zealot. I'm writing this from my brand new Win2K8 installation - and I've bought a license for this. Imagine that; I've paid for Windows.

* Only protectionism at government level, increasing reduction of fair use and/or de jure/de facto monopoly can make software saleable.

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