Linked by Steve Husted on Wed 5th Oct 2005 17:53 UTC
Gentoo I've been wanting to try Gentoo for some time, but always had to roll my eyes at the pages and pages of installation instructions. This time, however, I rolled up my sleeves and buckled down. Minutes later, I was on my way.
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My 2 cents
by blixel on Wed 5th Oct 2005 19:26 UTC
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2005-07-06

Well - I use Gentoo for my main system. I'm not a fanboy/zealot of Gentoo though. I use Ubuntu on my laptop because I just wanted a Linux system quick and easy. (Actually - I would run FreeBSD on my laptop but for the fact that my sound card is apparently unsupported. Bummer.)

Anyway - in reading this review, it sounded to me like this guy fell in love with Slackware a long time ago. He is a Slackware fanboy/zealot and tries other distros just so he can poo on them. He learned a long time ago how to do things one way - the Slackware way. And now he's afraid to learn anything new.

It sounds like he wanted a distro that would install everything "out of the box" and "just work" without having to know anything about setting up the X Window System, or configuring anything. That's not Gentoo. I could have told him that ahead of time and saved him a lot of trouble. Gentoo is more for people who want to know how things work.

If he wants an out of the box experience that just works, that's cool. I have no problem with that. I don't think of less of people who want that experience. There are times, such with my laptop, where that's what I want as well. But I'm not going to try Linux From Scratch on my laptop and then write an article complaining about how I had to do all these "wacky" LSF-specific steps that don't export to other distros just to get Linux up and going.

As far as "What are these USE flags all about?" - I guess he has never compiled a program from source. When you compile from source, you have options to include or exclude different compile time options. For me personally, the USE flags are probably the single coolest thing about Gentoo. I don't believe I'm necessarily getting a performance boost, but I know I'm excluding a lot of stuff that I'll never use when I compile a program with certain USE flags enabled, and others disabled.

The USE flags are a simple short cut to compiling everything from source with certain options enabled/disabled. As far as it being a Gentoo-only solution, yeah - sort of, I guess. But if you've compiled source code before, you understand exactly what it's doing and you THANK GOD it's doing it. It saves you a lot of monotonous work that would otherwise go something like:

Download source code
Download patches
Patch the source code
Read the README
Download any source code the original source code depends on.
Download patches for that source code.
Patch that source code.
Read the README
(Repeat until all dependencies have been met.)
Compile all source code dependencies.
Compile original source code.
Install original source code.

Or - use Gentoo and type "emerge <program>" to accomplish the same thing.

At the beginning of his article he told happy Gentoo users to go away. That's kind of funny. He should have took his own advice before ever trying Gentoo. As a Slackware zealot/fanboy, he should just use the One Thing he knows and be happy about it. Because until he's willing to actually learn something new, and actually take the time to read about something new, he's never going to be happy with another distro.

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RE: My 2 cents
by on Wed 5th Oct 2005 23:47 in reply to "My 2 cents"
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sounds like he wanted a distro that would install everything "out of the box" and "just work" without having to know anything about setting up the X Window System, or configuring anything. That's not Gentoo. I could have told him that ahead of time and saved him a lot of trouble. Gentoo is more for people who want to know how things work.

---Thats not Slackware either.... They guy is too used to how slackware works,, period

The back biters here are making no progress for Linux.
Just their childish egos. Grow up People.

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