Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 28th Jan 2010 17:29 UTC
Web 2.0 Wolfire writes: "Today, Apple announced the new iPad and humbly claimed that there will be a "gold rush" of native apps for the App Store. Sure, but what I find more interesting is that Apple also ironically created the most promising open web app platform, which may eventually undermine the App Store itself. [...] The iPad is the first mainstream device which combines all of the following factors: reasonably powerful hardware, a (potentially) huge user base, a mature WebKit implementation, and constant 3G internet capabilities. All the dominoes are in place, and I think that the iPad will knock the first one down."
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RE[2]: For the author
by Shkaba on Thu 28th Jan 2010 20:05 UTC in reply to "RE: For the author"
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What I object to, in both your article and your reply, is the fact that you don't see inclusion of a proprietary codec in a standard as a problem but you seem to have a problem with a proprietary technology. And yet somehow you manage to drag the open source term in all of this. As far as your reply and the "onus is on the publisher" ...

even distributing H.264 content over the internet or broadcasting it over the airwaves requires the consent of the MPEG-LA

Inclusion of such technologies (proprietary) in HTML standards is by far worst then using flash. I would even go as far as to say that maybe apple should consider revising their iPhone OS and enable multitasking.iPhone OS users would definitely be thankful for that.

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RE[3]: For the author
by Kroc on Thu 28th Jan 2010 20:16 in reply to "RE[2]: For the author"
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No codec is specified as part of the HTML5 standard. That said, there is the problem that Apple are pushing for a de-facto standard, helped by the fact that many publishers have their content already in H.264 for Flash purposes.

But do you think that Apple are going to suddenly adopt OGG? There’s nothing I can say or do to make that happen. Apple’s direction is clear, they have invested heavily in H.264 hardware and infrastructure, it’s here to stay, 2011 and beyond. OGG has a long way to come yet, and I’m waiting on Google to do something with On2 to hopefully bring some light to the end of the tunnel.

edit emphasis.

Edited 2010-01-28 20:19 UTC

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RE[4]: For the author
by Shkaba on Thu 28th Jan 2010 21:47 in reply to "RE[3]: For the author"
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And your point of your article is ???

This is what I got from your article:

Apple is good ... good for open source too. Yay, let's stick it to the evil adobe and flash by using html5 video tags (I know that I have to use H.264, but I don't care) Apple made this possible and they are "great", as long as they help us get rid of evil flash ... long live HTML5 video tag ...

And here are some facts:

1. HTML5 is not a standard ... yet
2. Ogg was part of HTML5 standard candidate, as in :

User agents should support Ogg Theora video and Ogg Vorbis audio, as well as the Ogg container format

But further to Apple's, and Nokia's objections it was removed, which sparked a number of reactions :

To even remotely imply that Apple has ANYTHING to do with open source is, therefore, preposterous and down right misleading.

created the most promising open web app platform

Over and out

edit: added quote from the article

Edited 2010-01-28 21:53 UTC

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