Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jan 2010 16:26 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft presented the results for its second quarter of the 2010 fiscal year yesterday, which ended on December 29 2009. As it turns out, thanks to sales of Windows 7, Microsoft experienced a record quarter, which is especially welcome after the previous two lacklustre ones. It sold 60 million Windows 7 licenses during this record quarter.
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Fastest for two reasons...
by Teknoenie on Fri 29th Jan 2010 18:48 UTC
Teknoenie
Member since:
2007-06-07

1) XP was good enough, especially considering the *necessary* Vista flop. However, it's a little long in the tooth and hardware support was likely becoming more of an issue for them.

2) Discontent people running Vista wanting to get off ASAP.

I think Vista was an absolutely necessary step for MS. Vista was "so bad" not because the OS was bad, but because the entire software ecosystem around it was so bad. MS made a very concentrated effort to secure its operating system. It did that pretty well all things considered, but software that ran on Windows made some very stupid assumptions that it would have full administrative access to the machine and this meant a lot of software, including Microsoft's own Office Suite didn't work well on it.

Fast forward a number of years and now that ecosystem of programs are developed and work with the additional security layers in place. The better user experience is *because* of the pain the Vista caused.

Even as a strong UNIX, GNU/Linux and BSD user, I'm impressed with what Microsoft has accomplished with Windows 7 and Windows 2008 R2. I still use GNU/Linux and BSD nearly exclusively but I must say.. Bravo Microsoft, Bravo, but I still won't use your products. ;)

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RE: Fastest for two reasons...
by marcp on Fri 29th Jan 2010 20:34 in reply to "Fastest for two reasons..."
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

"but software that ran on Windows made some very stupid assumptions that it would have full administrative access to the machine and this meant a lot of software, including Microsoft's own Office Suite didn't work well on it."

Oh please ... you're going into the strange loop. It was MS that designed its OS in a way that no privellege separation was a fact. Don't blame software devs for that. Lol!

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Teknoenie Member since:
2007-06-07

Oh please ... you're going into the strange loop. It was MS that designed its OS in a way that no privellege separation was a fact. Don't blame software devs for that. Lol!


What does privsep have to do with anything? You do know that in XP you were allowed to create limited access users right? If you did that and tried to run MS Office you would find that it didn't work as expected. There was even a MS knowledge base article about it, advising you against running Office as a limited account user.

I don't blame the developers so to speak, as MS enabled them to continue to write software under the old insecure model for way to long. I *do* blame software developers for making that assumption of administrative rights in the first place. They should have stood back and asked if there was ever a chance that some tin foil hat user like myself would ever consider running as a limited user (something I've done for all my customers over the years).

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RE: Fastest for two reasons...
by nt_jerkface on Fri 29th Jan 2010 21:43 in reply to "Fastest for two reasons..."
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26



2) Discontent people running Vista wanting to get off ASAP.

There hasn't been a mass exodus of Vista users to Windows 7. Most Vista users are satisfied with their OS.


Fast forward a number of years and now that ecosystem of programs are developed and work with the additional security layers in place. The better user experience is *because* of the pain the Vista caused.

The major security layers were added in Vista while 7 has minor security improvements. I have computers running both Vista and 7 and I wonder if most Vista bashers have even used it. The major difference in quality was from Vista SP0 and Vista SP2, not Vista SP2 and Windows 7. Too bad most tech press writers enjoy bashing Microsoft more than reading boring old benchmarks.

Edited 2010-01-29 21:46 UTC

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Devi1903 Member since:
2009-11-05


Most Vista users are satisfied with their OS.


Most people are not at all content with vista. The only people i have met who are content are end users who know no better.

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StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13


2) Discontent people running Vista wanting to get off ASAP.

There hasn't been a mass exodus of Vista users to Windows 7. Most Vista users are satisfied with their OS.


Microsoft don't let you get out much do they? Vista is so clunky and hostile it is almost universally *despised*. That's why Windows 7 is so praised in comparison.

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