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RE[4]: Fastest for two reasons...
by Devi1903 on Fri 29th Jan 2010 22:05
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RE[4]: Fastest for two reasons...
by BallmerKnowsBest on Sat 30th Jan 2010 01:08
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I also used to run on limited access user account and there were - in fact - problems with many applications, but again - it was MS fault in the first place!
Bull, lazy developers are the ones who are at fault for not make sure there applications worked under regular user accounts on NT.
1. MS designs its OS with user accounts, but no real privilege separation [i.e "do whatever you want, get the files from other accounts without giving a password] - Win95/98/NT/2k maybe?
In that first point, you've revealed yourself as completely clueless. NT has had proper user-level security since its first release.
2. MS again designs its OS with user accounts [crippled implementation - it makes YOU an admin by default] - WinXP 'Vanilla'
That statement is even more clueless than the last one, if that's possible. XP uses the exact same implementation of user accounts/security as all previous releases of NT. It wasn't crippled in any way, it only defaulted to an admin account (thanks all the software from lazy/incompetent devs who only tested their applications in Win9x or in admin accounts on NT).
3. MS once again designs its OS with user accounts [now it's slightly better - "as it always should"] - WinXP Home / SP3 maybe?
Instead of making wild guesses, you could, oh, I don't know... try educating yourself? Even just ten minutes skimming the wikipedia "Windows NT" article would make you better informed than you are right now.
RE[5]: Fastest for two reasons...
by marcp on Sat 30th Jan 2010 12:23
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2007-11-23
privilege separation = user account privileges [i.e administrator, limited user account, etc].
I also used to run on limited access user account and there were - in fact - problems with many applications, but again - it was MS fault in the first place!
here's the scheme:
1. MS designs its OS with user accounts, but no real privilege separation [i.e "do whatever you want, get the files from other accounts without giving a password] - Win95/98/NT/2k maybe?
2. MS again designs its OS with user accounts [crippled implementation - it makes YOU an admin by default] - WinXP 'Vanilla'
3. MS once again designs its OS with user accounts [now it's slightly better - "as it always should"] - WinXP Home / SP3 maybe?
4. MS changes the scheme: the previous one + UAC = more problems, more hell and inclarity. Devs are just *confused* ... - Vista / Win7
Of course I'm not talking about more advanced server versions, 'cause this is another thing. It's jus good.
But they couldn't even design their own software to work well on their own desktop OS, which is freaking hilarious!
Regards, Teknoenie