Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jan 2010 16:26 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft presented the results for its second quarter of the 2010 fiscal year yesterday, which ended on December 29 2009. As it turns out, thanks to sales of Windows 7, Microsoft experienced a record quarter, which is especially welcome after the previous two lacklustre ones. It sold 60 million Windows 7 licenses during this record quarter.
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StaubSaugerNZ
Member since:
2007-07-13

True, but anyone who runs windows xp as a server OS is crazy. Its a desktop OS, its pretty safe to assume when talking about a desktop os what anything we say about it is referring to its intended use as a desktop OS.


Nope, people still try it. Qualifying your statement makes it explicit what you are talking about (yes, you do have to be accurate on a forum such as this).

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

No they don't. Its not the intended purpose of the product. No one who understands the difference between a server and a desktop was confused by that sentence.


Do you really want all of us to be *that* specific? If so we'll have to start saying all of the following:

Microsoft Windows => windows can be generic computing term

Apple Computer company => as opposed to the Beatles Apple Recording company
Fedora Linux => as oppoosed to a hat
Intel Corperation => as opposed to a term for intelligence
Adobe Flash => as opposed to a form of flash memory.
Apple Computer company's iPhone => as opposed to the Cisco iPhone I have on my desk ;)

I'm sure there are many more I'm forgetting. Technobable does get confusing at some point with the acronyms and marketing terms getting recycled and used in different contexts, but this really isn't one of those examples.

In order for us to communicate, we have to assume some level of information, otherwise each post would exceed the max number of characters just laying down the prerequisite assumptions, backgrounds and history behind all of the forthcoming terms. That's absurd. You must simply assume that a product is going to be used as intended by the manufacturer unless there is a significant reason to assume otherwise.

I'm starting to wonder if you just misread his post at first and thought that XP was generic for Microsoft Windows, which then would have made sense to respond with a clarification citing the overlooked server market.

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StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

No they don't. Its not the intended purpose of the product. No one who understands the difference between a server and a desktop was confused by that sentence.


Do you really want all of us to be *that* specific? If so we'll have to start saying all of the following:

Microsoft Windows => windows can be generic computing term

Apple Computer company => as opposed to the Beatles Apple Recording company
Fedora Linux => as oppoosed to a hat
Intel Corperation => as opposed to a term for intelligence
Adobe Flash => as opposed to a form of flash memory.
Apple Computer company's iPhone => as opposed to the Cisco iPhone I have on my desk ;)

I'm sure there are many more I'm forgetting. Technobable does get confusing at some point with the acronyms and marketing terms getting recycled and used in different contexts, but this really isn't one of those examples.

In order for us to communicate, we have to assume some level of information, otherwise each post would exceed the max number of characters just laying down the prerequisite assumptions, backgrounds and history behind all of the forthcoming terms. That's absurd. You must simply assume that a product is going to be used as intended by the manufacturer unless there is a significant reason to assume otherwise.

I'm starting to wonder if you just misread his post at first and thought that XP was generic for Microsoft Windows, which then would have made sense to respond with a clarification citing the overlooked server market.


No, I just was pointing out that "90%+ market share" can be easily misconstrued since it does not cover The Entire Computer Market, but the wording "90%+ desktop market share" cannot. See how easy it can be, just a single word in the right place. Makes the difference between an excellent writer/poster and an average one. I have no doubt you understood the point as well as I did, but what I'm trying to say is that an ambiguity could be removed for other readers through the use of a single extra word.

Any by the way, perhaps you don't know how users in this "desktop" space actually work. Plenty of folk try and run server apps on Windows XP - I have seen it. Only well-heeled businesses and the technorati take the time to install the server version of Windows. I expect the same to happen with Win7, that plenty of common folk will try to run their little corner of the web on it. Then we're talking about the use of Windoss in the "server market" as well as the "desktop market" since "server" and "desktop" are actually roles, not specific pieces of hardware or software (despite the increasing trend of artificially segmenting markets to increase margins).

Edited 2010-01-29 23:15 UTC

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


Nope, people still try it. Qualifying your statement makes it explicit what you are talking about (yes, you do have to be accurate on a forum such as this).


No he doesn't when he is talking about an OS that is designed for the desktop. It has a tcp/ip connection limit after all.

Everyone here knew what he was talking about, including you.

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StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

"
Nope, people still try it. Qualifying your statement makes it explicit what you are talking about (yes, you do have to be accurate on a forum such as this).


No he doesn't when he is talking about an OS that is designed for the desktop. It has a tcp/ip connection limit after all.

Everyone here knew what he was talking about, including you.
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Everything has a TCP/IP connection limit. It just depends where it is and whether it is used to artifically segment the markwet. Which market? well, that's my point.

And no, not "everyone" reading these pages has done IT as long as you or I. Again, you don't understand the users (of this forum).

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