Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jan 2010 16:26 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft presented the results for its second quarter of the 2010 fiscal year yesterday, which ended on December 29 2009. As it turns out, thanks to sales of Windows 7, Microsoft experienced a record quarter, which is especially welcome after the previous two lacklustre ones. It sold 60 million Windows 7 licenses during this record quarter.
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X11, for one, which is even going to lose its room at FOSDEM next year because nobody cares about it, despite it being a critical component of the desktop. Still can't get OpenGL 2.0 on an 8 year old graphics card, for example. Performance is still choppy and way behind Windows on the same hardware.

But aside from that, the DEs are lacking in coherence and it is very easy to run into bugs, crashes, incomplete functionality and just plain lack of polish. I gave up on ever using KDE 4 because it continued to fail to produce.

Priorities are also in the wrong place. KDE devs keep pushing for KHTML when it is so far behind the times, it's not even funny. Instead, they could be working on WebKit, but that's just not "free" enough for them, or whatever the problem is.

And, while the rest of the world gets work done and can watch whatever media they want and run whatever software they want, Linux users and devs will at least have their "freedom", whatever value that actually has (certainly isn't technical).

While the rest of the world gets work done,

Lacking in coherence you say? Canonical are using the new KDE notification spec, both desktops use dbus and use various freedesktop specs. Qt provides native GTK theming which unifies the desktops' look.

What can you run on an 8 year old graphics card anyway?(Geforce4 series)

Yes I do work in Linux/KDE4 all the time. It's my main OS and desktop for graphic design, video editing, music, messaging, browsing and other common tasks. I get lots of work done thank you very much.

I don't worry about the "Linux is not ready for the desktop" people. I just get work done in Linux and leave them to think we can't to proper work.

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"Lacking in coherence you say? Canonical are using the new KDE notification spec, both desktops use dbus and use various freedesktop specs. Qt provides native GTK theming which unifies the desktops' look.

Cool, they are now using a notification system that is utter crap compared to what is available on Windows and OS X (Growl).

That's debatable. Having used KDE4, Windows XP, and Windows 7, I find it hard to believe that Windows notification bubbles are better than KDE4s simple notification applet. Don't know anything about Growl.

The biggest issue with Windows is that there isn't a centralised notification system. Every app uses it's own, and every systray applet uses it's own, and you can get bubbles hidden behind popups hidden behind slide-outs hidden behind modal dialogs.

At least with KDE, it's one tray icon, with a simple list that slides out.

DBus is a joke, really, compared to COM+, for example. Wake me up when I can easily invoke services from pretty much any app in a sane fashion. DBus integration for many apps is lacking or weak.

DBus, as with most GNOME technologies, isn't all that's it's cracked up to be. DCOP was much nicer, and easier to use to control KDE applications. It was also much more prevalent (was there a KDE app that didn't use/expose it?). Unfortunately, it seems the KDE people are much more willing to bend over backwards to help GNOME even if it means switching to inferior technologies (DCOP vs DBus, GTK+ support in QT, GStreamer support in Solid/Phonon).

I should be able to run a desktop operating system with 2d graphics that don't make me feel like I'm running Windows 3.1. I guess that's a bit much to ask.

What weirdo hardware are you using? If I can run KDE4 with desktop effects enabled on an eeePC 701, you should be able to run a 2D desktop on any video card. My home desktop even uses onboard Intel graphics with 8 MB of video RAM without tearing, artifacts, slowdowns.

Not all Linux distros are ready for the non-business-oriented desktop. However, a lot of Linux distros are most definitely ready for the business-oriented desktop. And some Linux distros are ready for the hobbyist consumer desktop.

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