Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jan 2010 22:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless During the iPad presentation, I was rather perplexed by Apple's claim to be the largest mobile device company in the world. Apparently, I wasn't the only one scratching his head, as Nokia itself, and even the Financial Times, is calling Apple out on its juggling with figures and definitions.
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Has Nokia reason to fear?
by WereCatf on Sat 30th Jan 2010 21:34 UTC
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Nokia isn't doing well in the high-end - although they still remain king of the lower and middle end, and looking at the various offerings in those segments from Samsung, LG, and others, Nokia has little to fear there.

Indeed, Nokia hasn't really been the king on high-end lately, but personally I think they have good chances of raising their position there right now.

I've been eyeing the Nokia N900 for a while now and plan to get one myself; it's a really awesome, powerful phone, it has been designed from top to bottom to make it easy and fast to multi-task, modify your phone to suit your needs, and install both free and non-free applications with ease. All the videos I've seen about it, everything I've read about it really makes it look like an awesome phone.

Though, Nokia has learned alot while developing N810 and the N900 and they are already pressing forward with the next Maemo version. And that's where I think they'll really start to really reel customers in. N900 is the first phone with Maemo platform and it has certain short-comings, like f.ex. no multi-touch. For me it is perfect, but for general public it'll probably still feel slightly lacking, so I see it as a development step.

Ah well, now that I think about it, this might be slightly off-topic. Just wanted to say that I do feel they've got a bright-looking future ahead of them and might really start to push back on high-end mobile phone market.

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RE: Has Nokia reason to fear?
by vivainio on Sat 30th Jan 2010 22:02 in reply to "Has Nokia reason to fear?"
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2008-12-26

N900 is the first phone with Maemo platform and it has certain short-comings, like f.ex. no multi-touch.


N900 does not really suffer from not having multi-touch at all. I'm happy with the "finger rotate" zoom on N900 - pinch-to-zoom may make for a nice demo, but I don't think the ergonomics of doing that are really that much better than the alternatives.

For me it is perfect, but for general public it'll probably still feel slightly lacking, so I see it as a development step.


N900 is not lacking as far as the UI goes (it's actually very appealing, not "raw" in the sense N810 and earlier Maemo devices were), but it's still a young platform and hence does not have tons of third party applications, apart from the open source ones.

Ah well, now that I think about it, this might be slightly off-topic. Just wanted to say that I do feel they've got a bright-looking future ahead of them and might really start to push back on high-end mobile phone market.


Qt is really turning a new leaf for Nokia. I'm horribly biased (as a Nokia employee), but it provides 5x better coding efficiency than the old Symbian C++ approach (or Gtk+), without sacrificing raw performance. Basically, Nokia is going to have superior technology stack when compared against Apple and Google, and this will certainly pay off.

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RE[2]: Has Nokia reason to fear?
by leech on Sun 31st Jan 2010 00:50 in reply to "RE: Has Nokia reason to fear?"
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2006-01-10

Speaking of Qt and the n900, when is the 4.6 goodness coming? I've seen quite a few videos of development stuff.

I am loving my N900, sold a Motorola Cliq to get it. It's full of awesome. Especially being able to use apt-get on it.

Sure it's missing a few features, as I've always said, it's more of a computer, with some phone things thrown in as an afterthought.

But the fact that it's a totally open platform is actually making me want to learn programming so I can develop for it.

Most of the people I work with have iPhones, and I haven't really seen any redeeming qualities that the iPhone OS has. Still makes me wonder why they didn't just make a Mac OS X tablet, instead of making a Huge iPod. But then again, with such an uninspiring name like iPad, what did we expect?

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