Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 31st Jan 2010 14:20 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Internet & Networking Despite the recent interest in adopting HTML5's video tag, there is still one major problem: there is no mandated standard video codec for the video tag. The two main contestants are the proprietary and patended h264, and the open and free Theora. In a comment on an LWN.net article about this problematic situation, LWN reader Trelane posted an email exchange he had with MPEG-LA, which should further cement Theora as the obvious choice.
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by statuliber on Sun 31st Jan 2010 14:44 UTC
statuliber
Member since:
2009-12-11

I totally agree! Who cares about quality if there is no freedom?
I really appreciate your commitment to theora and freedom!

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by drstorm on Sun 31st Jan 2010 15:08 in reply to "Thumbs Up"
drstorm Member since:
2009-04-24

Who cares about quality if there is no freedom?

Most people, actually. People forget that IE and Flash succeeded because there were no better alternatives. h264 has technical advantages and as a user I cannot really oppose its adaption.
As a developer, I can say that it is short-sighted, but in the end the only thing that really matters is user satisfaction, because that's where the profits are.

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by Erunno on Sun 31st Jan 2010 15:22 in reply to "RE: Thumbs Up"
Erunno Member since:
2007-06-22

I very much doubt that most users (i.e. the ignorant masses) could tell the difference between a H.264 and a Theora encoded video on their run-of-the-mill hardware under normal circumstances that are usually less than optimal (e.g. lightning, monitor settings, insufficient resolution, etc.).

The encoding problem is as bad as the decoding because it pretty much limits the content providers to the ones with deep enough pockets to pay for the license. Normal users will always risk the wrath of MPEG-LA if they dare to upload their own videos to the web.

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by hornett on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 13:26 in reply to "Thumbs Up"
hornett Member since:
2005-09-19

Am I the only person who prefers quality to Freedom then?

* I'll take NVidia's proprietary drivers over the open nv driver because it works better.

* I'll take Nero AAC encoder over FAAC because it works better.

* I'll take h.264 over Theora/Dirac because it works better.

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by lemur2 on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 13:44 in reply to "RE: Thumbs Up"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Am I the only person who prefers quality to Freedom then?

* I'll take NVidia's proprietary drivers over the open nv driver because it works better.

* I'll take Nero AAC encoder over FAAC because it works better.

* I'll take h.264 over Theora/Dirac because it works better.


After recent significant improvements in Theora, h.264 no longer works appreciably better than Theora.

If someone is feeding you a story and telling you otherwise, just check that they aren't in fact speaking for one of these companies:

http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensors.aspx

BTW, the recently available open source drivers for ATI video cards, now included in Linux kernel 2.6.32 or later, work just great. 3D-capable drivers out of the box, nothing more to install, automatically updated along with kernel upgrades.

I have no comment on AAC, other than to observe that Vorbis is also a lossy audio codec that achieves significantly better sound quality than mp3, but it has added advantage of having no possibility of being encumbered with DRM.

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