Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 31st Jan 2010 14:20 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Internet & Networking Despite the recent interest in adopting HTML5's video tag, there is still one major problem: there is no mandated standard video codec for the video tag. The two main contestants are the proprietary and patended h264, and the open and free Theora. In a comment on an LWN.net article about this problematic situation, LWN reader Trelane posted an email exchange he had with MPEG-LA, which should further cement Theora as the obvious choice.
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It's comparable to MP3
by Kondor337 on Sun 31st Jan 2010 17:01 UTC
Kondor337
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2006-09-16

MP3 is also patented and proprietary. Nevertheless, I have never had any problems with MP3, because the companies which produce the software I use have paid all license fees. I'm sure Google, Adobe, Apple and others will make sure that everyone can encode, decode and upload h.264 files without (the users) paying any money.

Ok, there may be some problems with free software and there have been completely free Linux distributions without an MP3 codec, but this hasn't been a real problem because it's so easy to install one on Linux. After all, there are free and open-source MP3 codecs, because MP3 isn't patented in countries without software patents. And there are free and open-source h.264 codecs, too.

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RE: It's comparable to MP3
by cerbie on Sun 31st Jan 2010 18:15 in reply to "It's comparable to MP3"
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

Most FOSS project are explicitly exempt, in the case of MP3, there aren't encoding/decoding licenses, and with the exception of online music stores, distribution is royalty-free.

MP3's licensing terms are good for FOSS, good for wide adoption in general, and for the most part, exceptionally fair.

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RE: It's comparable to MP3
by Fergy on Sun 31st Jan 2010 18:38 in reply to "It's comparable to MP3"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Ok, there may be some problems with free software and there have been completely free Linux distributions without an MP3 codec, but this hasn't been a real problem because it's so easy to install one on Linux. After all, there are free and open-source MP3 codecs, because MP3 isn't patented in countries without software patents. And there are free and open-source h.264 codecs, too.

The most popular linux does not have mp3 support: Ubuntu
If mp3 gave such a big problem with the relatively lose restrictions imagine what the H264 monster will be.

Edited 2010-01-31 18:38 UTC

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RE[2]: It's comparable to MP3
by darknexus on Sun 31st Jan 2010 23:08 in reply to "RE: It's comparable to MP3"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

"Ok, there may be some problems with free software and there have been completely free Linux distributions without an MP3 codec, but this hasn't been a real problem because it's so easy to install one on Linux. After all, there are free and open-source MP3 codecs, because MP3 isn't patented in countries without software patents. And there are free and open-source h.264 codecs, too.

The most popular linux does not have mp3 support: Ubuntu
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Not install by default, but the first time you attempt to play an mp3 file it will gladly install it for you.

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RE: It's comparable to MP3
by ssokolow on Sun 31st Jan 2010 18:56 in reply to "It's comparable to MP3"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

Yes, but to the best of my knowledge, MP3 licenses are to be paid for encoders and decoders and only the manufacturers are liable.

MPEG LA just said that, with H.264, end users are just as liable as providers for unlicensed video fees.

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RE[2]: It's comparable to MP3
by KAMiKAZOW on Sun 31st Jan 2010 22:12 in reply to "RE: It's comparable to MP3"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

MPEG LA just said that, with H.264, end users are just as liable as providers for unlicensed video fees.

And you believe them? Of course they say that, because they want to make more money. Whether users are liable or not depends on the jurisdiction, not on what MPEG LA members say. MPEG LA are not above the law.

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