Linked by Adam S on Mon 1st Feb 2010 18:19 UTC
Podcasts Back in August of 2009, the OSnews team spent 3 full hours discussing Apple. In the course of discussion, we spent some time talking about the then-mythical "Apple Tablet." So, 5 months later, how did we do? Were we accurate in our predictions? How did you envision the Tablet, long before the nonsensically named "iPad" became a reality? This clip, which I've called "Episode 20.x" and inserted into cannon retroactively, is pulled, unaltered, from the original podcast.
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RE[4]: Ogg Vorbis?
by Kroc on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 15:51 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Ogg Vorbis?"
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Because unlike companies I’m not being paid to do this and my time is extremely limited. I work an insane amount of hours sometimes and I spend my day off doing the podcast. Uploading the files is slow, and using the back end to write and publish the podcast is also slow and clumsy. Producing an OGG alternative would add an hour to the turnaround time, and I’m not willing to add that when there simply isn’t the practical demand yet (I’ve yet to hear someone who physically has no access to any device capable of playing MP3), and that I will get the server to transcode and publish OGG with the OSn5 rewrite.

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RE[5]: Ogg Vorbis?
by openadvocate on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 18:25 in reply to "RE[4]: Ogg Vorbis?"
openadvocate Member since:
2010-01-21

"Web developers, the choice is yours. Are you ignorant and short-sighted, or are you willing to make a stand for keeping the web open, and finally breaking video loose from its proprietary shackles?"

Sound familiar? I understand that you are volunteering and that time is limited but OSNews looks like its being run by hypocrites when rants are published about other websites using proprietary formats despite the fact the OSNews continues to do the same.

If time is short and you don't have time for both, why not publish Ogg Vorbis only? If you want to give users a cleaner way to transcode to something else you could publish FLAC only. It's getting tiresome to read the several articles dealing with Youtube ignoring patents when OSNews does the same.

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RE[6]: Ogg Vorbis?
by Kroc on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 19:30 in reply to "RE[5]: Ogg Vorbis?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

In reply to you and StephenBeDoper below:

I don’t own or run OSnews. I am not the developer for OSnews; Adam is (I am writing a new system from scratch). I am a volunteer who has put himself forward to help the site. I restarted the podcast with Thom as my own idea to help contribute. OSnews is not my personal website that has to uphold my personal views. I honestly don’t think you understand the limits on my time, nor how time consuming producing the show and publishing it is (it requires many steps, made complicated by our admin system).

We cannot publish OGG only, because iTunes is by far and away the most common podcast client.

Could you please respect that I am doing a huge amount for OSnews voluntarily including time and monetary outlay, and *my opinions do not reflect those of OSnews itself*.

It's getting tiresome to read the several articles dealing with Youtube ignoring patents when OSNews does the same.


It’s getting even more tiresome hearing demands for OGG audio when I haven’t seen any demonstrateable need for it, and I am already working to address the problem by producing a new HTML5 site that will include OGG support. Honestly; I’m giving that much, and still it’s not enough—I wonder why I bother sometimes.

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