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Windows Heck, Microsoft really weren't kidding when they said Windows 7 was the fastest-selling operating system in the world. NetApplications released its figures for January 2010, and it seems that after only three months of availability, Microsoft's latest baby has already hit the 10% market share mark.
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Why is this a supprise?
by Gone fishing on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 04:52 UTC
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Member since:
2006-02-22

Windows 7 is quite nice, attractive modern OS that is preloaded onto almost all PCs sold.

Windows XP over a decade old, insecure, obsolete OS that maintained its dominant position because it was the only native platform or running win32 applications (which is most commercial software)

Windows Vista - Absolutely awful (I use it every day and it is an utter misery,) when compared to the expectations of the day probably the worst OS ever made).

So obviously now - post Vista - its a good time to buy a new PC or upgrade your OS

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RE: Why is this a supprise?
by cerbie on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 06:46 in reply to "Why is this a supprise?"
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

The thing is, Windows 7 adoption is much greater than new machines. That's what really makes it impressive. MS' newest is always on the new PCs.

If the hardware supports it (FI, a good bit of recent-but-pre-HD-series Radeon chips are SOL), and you're not starved for RAM (like my notebook), there's really no downside. Just tonight, my father and I added one more to the number, convincing a long-time friend and customer to finally upgrade from Win2k. If 7 were no better than Vista, it would have been an upgrade to XP, to make it until the 2014 cut-off.

Edited 2010-02-03 06:47 UTC

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RE: Why is this a supprise?
by Jokel on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 07:18 in reply to "Why is this a supprise?"
Jokel Member since:
2006-06-01

I tried to switch to Windows 7 from XP. It was a disaster. Not because W7 is that bad, but because a lot of (a bit) older hard- and software just wont run with W7.

You see - I use a DAW with rather expensive hardware that wont run reliable on W7 (and believe me - I tried a lot of possible solutions). I also use a lot of VST plugins that give a lot of trouble on W7. The new sound architecture of W7 also has caused huge latency problems with audio and MIDI recording, making W7 almost useless. I had sudden crashes when working with huge projects (presumably caused by plugins, driver or whatever). That's a disaster when you have to deliver work on time, but only huge latency alone is enough to give a big fat NO to W7.

So at this moment (and a long time in the foreseeable future I am afraid) my DAW is not going to be "transplanted" to W7. I going to stay with XP.

The rest of the hardware, computers (and second DAW) etc. is running Mandriva Linux and puppy. You can be sure that stuff absolutely is not going to switch to W7. That would be loosing too much functionality and a step back in my opinion.

I really not bashing W7 here, but at this moment I feel it is not ready for really serious work with the hardware I have. And spending a huge amount of dollars to buy new hardware that will work with W7 is no reasonable option, don't you think?

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

I thought linux DAWs were still in the dark ages compared to what is on mac/windows. What do you use, and how do you find it?

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RE[2]: Why is this a supprise?
by Laurence on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 15:37 in reply to "RE: Why is this a supprise?"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

I tried to switch to Windows 7 from XP. It was a disaster. Not because W7 is that bad, but because a lot of (a bit) older hard- and software just wont run with W7.

You see - I use a DAW with rather expensive hardware that wont run reliable on W7 (and believe me - I tried a lot of possible solutions). I also use a lot of VST plugins that give a lot of trouble on W7. The new sound architecture of W7 also has caused huge latency problems with audio and MIDI recording, making W7 almost useless. I had sudden crashes when working with huge projects (presumably caused by plugins, driver or whatever). That's a disaster when you have to deliver work on time, but only huge latency alone is enough to give a big fat NO to W7.

So at this moment (and a long time in the foreseeable future I am afraid) my DAW is not going to be "transplanted" to W7. I going to stay with XP.

The rest of the hardware, computers (and second DAW) etc. is running Mandriva Linux and puppy. You can be sure that stuff absolutely is not going to switch to W7. That would be loosing too much functionality and a step back in my opinion.

I really not bashing W7 here, but at this moment I feel it is not ready for really serious work with the hardware I have. And spending a huge amount of dollars to buy new hardware that will work with W7 is no reasonable option, don't you think?

If music is your business then there's nothing to be gained from upgrading from XP simply because DAWs plus VST(i)s are power hungry so you're going to want as small footprint on the OS as possible.

If your studio PC is also your home PC, then the best option is to run 2 OSs. One dedicated for music (so doesn't even have an anti-virus installed) and one for the web, games, or whatever else you choose to do with your computer.

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RE: Why is this a supprise?
by rockwell on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 15:19 in reply to "Why is this a supprise?"
rockwell Member since:
2005-09-13

//Windows Vista - Absolutely awful (I use it every day and it is an utter misery,) when compared to the expectations of the day probably the worst OS ever made). //

If Vista SP2 with full patches and driver updates (of course, you have those, right?) ... is "utter misery" ... than you're either a troll, using shit hardware, or a retard.

Edited 2010-02-03 15:19 UTC

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Well, this specific person your responding too may be a skill or troll issue but again, not indicative of everyone. I've a co-worker who's had no end of troubles with Vista. Blue screens before. After a rebuild; freezing during the update process. He can't even get updates to patch the bugs causing the problems because the update is buggy. This is a developer who's been doing code and computers since the days when motorola chips where used for desktop CPU.

It's simply not a universal experience that the only reasons for problems with Vista where due to user ignorance.

(I'll try to let you know the outcome. We're testing the hardware with a different OS currently.)

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RE[2]: Why is this a supprise?
by Devi1903 on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 19:05 in reply to "RE: Why is this a supprise?"
Devi1903 Member since:
2009-11-05

//If Vista SP2 with full patches and driver updates (of course, you have those, right?) ... is "utter misery" ... than you're either a troll, using shit hardware, or a retard.


I really do wonder why there are people out there still defending Vista as a good operating system. Is the only OS you have ever used Vista? Vista was and is a truely shocking OS, which ever way you look at it!

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RE: Why is this a supprise?
by boldingd on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 18:37 in reply to "Why is this a supprise?"
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

Windows Vista - Absolutely awful (I use it every day and it is an utter misery,) when compared to the expectations of the day probably the worst OS ever made).


I think you're exagerating a little. IMHO, Vista's greatest flaw, and the biggest improvement in 7, is basically just speed (and mainly start up speed, so far as I can tell). It may be slow to log you in... but that's not exactly torture.

Compared to the difference between OS families -- like, Windows vs. a Linux distro, or Windows vs. Os X -- the differences between Vista and 7 are minor. People blow waaaay out of proportion how bad Vista was, and how incredible Win7 is.

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RE: Why is this a supprise?
by nt_jerkface on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 21:49 in reply to "Why is this a supprise?"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


Windows Vista - Absolutely awful (I use it every day and it is an utter misery,) when compared to the expectations of the day probably the worst OS ever made).

So obviously now - post Vista - its a good time to buy a new PC or upgrade your OS


What exactly is causing you utter misery? Please provide specifics in comparison to what in Windows 7 would reduce your pain and suffering. Would it be the slightly improved Aero glass or the simplified taskbar? Is the the lack of a new logo that causes you stress?

Here's that absolutely awful Vista running nearly the same as XP on an EEE PC 900 which has a 900mhz celeron:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXw7v1bxpSs

I would like to think that OSnews readers are a little more astute and are aware Windows 7 is mostly a service pack and a marketing campaign. However it seems that half the people here would have fallen for the Mojave experiment.

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RE[2]: Why is this a supprise?
by Devi1903 on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 22:03 in reply to "RE: Why is this a supprise?"
Devi1903 Member since:
2009-11-05

What exactly is causing you utter misery? Please provide


Ok Specific. Me and gonefishing tried to setup a printer on Vista the other day. HP Laserjet P4015N.

It was a pain to setup. Vista kept on crashing. Spooling was taking an age! Vista would not work with the vista driver supported.

About to give up and downloaded another Vista driver from HP. Now after 15minutes of install this driver finally it worked!

Why did it not work with the other driver? Why everytime we restarted the print spooler to empty the que did vista freeze up and have to hit the reset button? Why did it take 15 minutes to install a driver that was 15 meg?

You tell me if this is acceptable performance!

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