Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Feb 2010 22:52 UTC
Windows Heck, Microsoft really weren't kidding when they said Windows 7 was the fastest-selling operating system in the world. NetApplications released its figures for January 2010, and it seems that after only three months of availability, Microsoft's latest baby has already hit the 10% market share mark.
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RE[2]: Why is this a supprise?
by Devi1903 on Wed 3rd Feb 2010 22:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Why is this a supprise?"
Devi1903
Member since:
2009-11-05

What exactly is causing you utter misery? Please provide


Ok Specific. Me and gonefishing tried to setup a printer on Vista the other day. HP Laserjet P4015N.

It was a pain to setup. Vista kept on crashing. Spooling was taking an age! Vista would not work with the vista driver supported.

About to give up and downloaded another Vista driver from HP. Now after 15minutes of install this driver finally it worked!

Why did it not work with the other driver? Why everytime we restarted the print spooler to empty the que did vista freeze up and have to hit the reset button? Why did it take 15 minutes to install a driver that was 15 meg?

You tell me if this is acceptable performance!

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Ok Specific. Me and gonefishing tried to setup a printer on Vista the other day. HP Laserjet P4015N.

It was a pain to setup. Vista kept on crashing. Spooling was taking an age! Vista would not work with the vista driver supported.

About to give up and downloaded another Vista driver from HP. Now after 15minutes of install this driver finally it worked!

Why did it not work with the other driver? Why everytime we restarted the print spooler to empty the que did vista freeze up and have to hit the reset button? Why did it take 15 minutes to install a driver that was 15 meg?

You tell me if this is acceptable performance!


Wow, sounds like a problem you should be complaining to HP about ;)

Seriously though, printer drivers and associated "management" software have become some of the worst software I've ever seen...

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Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

It could be a crap HP driver that meant it didn't work?
However, it is Vistas fault if:

1 stopping the spooler crashes the box
2 It is impossible to remover the printer (OK we did manage to remove it after unplugging the printer rebooting the box and clicking delete repeatedly for 10 minutes.
3 Once the non functional driver is installed it is impossible to select another you plug in the USB and come hell or high water it WILL use the non working driver unless you format and reinstall.

4 You cannot manually install a USB printer

5 And every reboot takes about 5 minutes on fair hardware. Dual core 2 gig ram nvidia card PCBSD Opensuse, Ubuntu or any Linux (let alone Haiku) would fly on the Box.

6 Why does MS have to release an OS (Vista) that almost manages to be usable after 2 service packs is this acceptable?

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


Ok Specific. Me and gonefishing tried to setup a printer on Vista the other day. HP Laserjet P4015N.

It was a pain to setup. Vista kept on crashing. Spooling was taking an age! Vista would not work with the vista driver supported.

About to give up and downloaded another Vista driver from HP. Now after 15minutes of install this driver finally it worked!

Why did it not work with the other driver? Why everytime we restarted the print spooler to empty the que did vista freeze up and have to hit the reset button? Why did it take 15 minutes to install a driver that was 15 meg?

You tell me if this is acceptable performance!


Why is this the fault of Vista and not HP? I always try to download and install the driver directly first before messing with any wizards. In fact when installing a printer with Vista or 7 you should always just plug in the usb cable first to see if Windows recognizes it. I've installed over a dozen printers in Vista so I really don't think the problem is its printer management system. It sounds like you loaded some HP crapware that didn't run properly. Some of the worst install wizards I have ever used were from HP. D-link is pretty bad too. Oh and don't get me started on the crap that Sony comes up with.

Edited 2010-02-04 04:32 UTC

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

You said you use Vista every day in 'utter misery' and didn't explain this other than a printer problem you had which can happen with any OS. At the very least you should explain how the experience was improved in Windows 7.

Most of the complaints before SP1 centered around opengl and network transfer performance. Complaints related to printers had more to do with unsupported devices. I see no reason to believe that Vista has more of a problem with printing than XP or 7.

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