Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Feb 2010 19:06 UTC, submitted by diegocg
KDE And there we are, the KDE team has released KDE Software Compilation 4.4, formerly known as, well, KDE. Major new features include social networking and online collaboration integration, the new netbook interface, the KAuth authentication framework, and a lot more.
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boldingd
Member since:
2009-02-19

Funny I could just as easily say that "X has gotten better and will soon be awesome!" has been a talking-point for the local Linux Desktop Defender's Club.


Fair enough. In any case, the original statement was... far from original. One might say, we've covered this territory on OS News. Exhaustively.

I agree that it isn't the weakest link in the Linux desktop. I'd say that dependency issues cause more problems for people. Sub-pixel font rendering also needs to be improved.


If you're trying to install things from source, sure. But if you stick to your distributor's repositories, you'll probably be fine. I haven't had dependancy resolution problems in a long while, on Debian, Fedora or Ubuntu. Or Slackware, for that matter, as it pretty much just installs everything you'd want in the first place. (I have on RHEL4, but it's... very old.)

Dependancy resolution seems like a consistent gripe of yours; I'm a littel curious about what actually happened to get you so convinced that it's such a pressing problem.

Also, my fonts look fine, and have since forever on pretty much any Linux and any hardware I've used. But I'm not a typographer, so as long as they're legible and not highly aliased, I'm O.K. with them.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

If you're trying to install things from source, sure. But if you stick to your distributor's repositories, you'll probably be fine.


Probably isn't good enough and users shouldn't have to wait for a repository update just to run the latest version of a browser. It's also a complete waste of labor hunting down dependency bugs.


Dependancy resolution seems like a consistent gripe of yours; I'm a littel curious about what actually happened to get you so convinced that it's such a pressing problem.


I think it's an archaic system that causes needless problems. Shared libraries made more sense in the 70's when hardware resources were severely limited.


Also, my fonts look fine, and have since forever on pretty much any Linux and any hardware I've used. But I'm not a typographer, so as long as they're legible and not highly aliased, I'm O.K. with them.


Well I don't like the sub-pixel rendering in Linux and I'm not the only one. It isn't simply that I'm used to Windows either. I find the font rendering in the iphone to be easier on the eyes as well.

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boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

"If you're trying to install things from source, sure. But if you stick to your distributor's repositories, you'll probably be fine.


Probably isn't good enough and users shouldn't have to wait for a repository update just to run the latest version of a browser. It's also a complete waste of labor hunting down dependency bugs.
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Frankly, "probably" is all you really get in software. Probably's all you get in Windows or OS X, where any given third-party installation may or may not work. True, the odds of failure are pretty low, usually, but then again, the odds of a modern package management system failing are also pretty low. (I've yet to see it happen - at least, out of Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, and Sidux. I have imploded Gentoo quite dramatically... but then, that's Gentoo.)

I'm OK with waiting for my distributor to package an upgrade - certainly if I'm using a distribution that does so in a reasonable amount of time. Fedora and Ubuntu give you a decently new version of most packages.

Frankly, if you consider a lag while you wait for the distributor to package software a cost of having a centralized installation/update point, then I still think a repository system is worth it -- even with that minus, I still think it's more pluses than minuses.

And, anyway, you can just get your dependancies from the package management infrastructure, and build from source, if you're that impatient.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Probably isn't good enough and users shouldn't have to wait for a repository update just to run the latest version of a browser.

So, is manually having to update every single application any better? I've got several browsers and a load of other applications, every single one of them having an updater of their own. You can't update them all at once. THAT's what I call bad design.

I think it's an archaic system that causes needless problems. Shared libraries made more sense in the 70's when hardware resources were severely limited.

You're just being biased. First of all, Linux is used on all kinds of computers, ranging from really small dedicated systems to large mainframes. Shared libraries use less memory than static libraries, and on small-scale machines every bit counts. On large mainframes with a dozen virtual machines it also helps as there the memory is needed for data. Having a gazillion different static copies of the same library eats memory unnecessarily.

Oh, and if you didn't know: OSX and Windows support shared libraries too.

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