Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 14th Feb 2010 20:51 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless While the world outside of OSNews is wondering whether we really need yet another mobile operating system, we here are of course happy with another contender - the more, the merrier, as it equals to competition, which keeps everybody on their toes. A day before the Mobile World Congress kicks off in Barcelona (finally a tech event in my time zone!), Samsung unveiled its Wave handset, the first sporting Samsung's new Bada operating system.
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Nice hardware, but...
by cb_osn on Mon 15th Feb 2010 00:10 UTC
cb_osn
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2006-02-26

Building another "new" operating system is a mistake, particularly for a company like Samsung. What the iPhone and Android have done is introduce the idea that consumer phones are mobile computing devices with a focus on software.

I trust both Apple and Google to ensure their platforms survive and to encourage development of their respective ecosystems. This means that, as both a developer and a user, I can count on any investment, time-wise or financial, to retain its value into the future.

The old guard handset manufacturers like Samsung have pushed the idea that phones are one-off throwaway devices for so long that I have no reason to believe BadaOS will be around in a few years time or that any phone purchased now will receive the latest updates as they become available.

Until companies like Samsung can prove that they care as much about maintaining a platform as they do about selling hardware, I consider these things to be nothing more than nifty feature phones and not in the same league as iPhone or Android.

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RE: Nice hardware, but...
by spiderman on Mon 15th Feb 2010 09:51 in reply to "Nice hardware, but..."
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23


I trust both Apple and Google to ensure their platforms survive and to encourage development of their respective ecosystems. This means that, as both a developer and a user, I can count on any investment, time-wise or financial, to retain its value into the future.

Hardware-wise, my old Apple II didn't retain much value. Software-wise, if you still want to use your farting app that was written 10 years ago in J2ME, you can. Just use any phone that does J2ME (about all phones except the iPhone)
I don't trust Apple nor Google to secure any of my investment. I can trust the Apache license of Android, but certainly not the Apple license. If you do trust them, I can only wish good luck to you and that they don't betray you.

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RE[2]: Nice hardware, but...
by cb_osn on Mon 15th Feb 2010 16:52 in reply to "RE: Nice hardware, but..."
cb_osn Member since:
2006-02-26

Hardware-wise, my old Apple II didn't retain much value.

Over a decade after production, these devices were still in use (and useful) in elementary and middle schools across the US. I'd say that's reasonable value.

Software-wise, if you still want to use your farting app

I really must have been asleep for the portion of time in which this joke was funny.

Just use any phone that does J2ME

I'm not keen on self-inflicted pain.

I don't trust Apple nor Google to secure any of my investment. I can trust the Apache license of Android, but certainly not the Apple license. If you do trust them, I can only wish good luck to you and that they don't betray you.

It is in the best interest of both Apple and Google to improve and expand their respective platforms so that they remain viable and competitive. An open license is a benefit, but it doesn't ensure developer attention and it doesn't provide relevance. Both of which are needed to maintain a successful platform and both of which have been attained by Apple and Google.

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RE: Nice hardware, but...
by fatjoe on Mon 15th Feb 2010 13:22 in reply to "Nice hardware, but..."
fatjoe Member since:
2010-01-12

Building another "new" operating system is a mistake, particularly for a company like Samsung.


Allow me to disagree.
First of all, Samsung is the second larger phone maker in the world. They are also (if I am not mistaken) the largest electronic manufacture in the world.

For a company of this size, it is strategically important to have more control on the operative system that Android gives. And I assume that the engineers at Samsung are proud of what they have achieved so far and would not just throw away what they have build after years just because a new and shiny OS is in town.

Also, Samsung is by no way building a "new" operative system. They are trying to create a unified programming environment for their handsets. This is just like Nokia using Qt for development in Symbian and Maemo (MeeGo). There are no additional cost, only benefits in having a unified development environment.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

In the corporate world corporate strategics aren't noted for their longevity.

Frankly, every engineer is proud of their work, but they aren't the ones who decide what direction the company will go.

If Bada is only a unified programming environment rather than an OS ... Well then what operating system is it running? What makes it interesting?

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