Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Feb 2010 15:47 UTC
Windows So, after much, much speculation and many, many rumours, Microsoft finally took the wraps off Windows Phone 7 Series, its newest mobile operating system. Hold on to your hats, because uncharacteristically for the Redmond giant, they've rebuilt everything from the ground up - this system has little to no connection to the Windows Mobile of yore. I don't say this lightly - but dear lord, Windows Phone 7 Series is full of win. Update: Hands-on video from Engadget inside. Update II: There is no sync application. It's all done over-the-air, to the internet. Only videos and music are synced via the Zune software. Update III: Since I didn't mention it clearly, here it goes: Windows Phone 7 Series is a clean break. There is no backwards compatibility at all. Update IV: Channel9 has a 22-minute in-depth demonstration of Windows Phone 7 Series.
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Mon 15th Feb 2010 16:04 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

A good UI—great, awesome, thanks! But the iPhone is tough competition:

* Will it sync with Mac?
* Multi-touch?
* Marketplace? What will the deal be with this?
* GPS/Compass/Camera/Gaming cred

Microsoft will have a tough sell now that the iPhone is established, but this certainly is the UI for it. I’m very glad they’ve done their own thing their own way.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Karitku on Mon 15th Feb 2010 16:14 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

Will it sync with Mac?
My first respons, who the f--k cares you are talking 5% of users. Most likely it won't sync but it will sync with cloud and probaply work as usb memory(since they support SD cards).

Multi-touch?

Yes, shows in proto unit. Is part of Chassis 1 spec.
Marketplace? What will the deal be with this?

It will be there but it will be reboot, which is good since now Marketplace is half-assed. No old programs will work with new UI.
GPS/Compass/Camera/Gaming cred Microsoft will have a tough sell now that the iPhone is established, but this certainly is the UI for it. I’m very glad they’ve done their own thing their own way.

It will be intresting how this UI work. It reminds bit WebOS. For developers there is couple new things like "tiles" and how you use those to present information. Also it's unclear how third party apps work but I would guess thru "hubs" as external parts. And thank god they finally thrown away stupid multichassis style, now only Nokia seems to wander that way which is valley of death.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Mon 15th Feb 2010 16:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

My first respons, who the f--k cares you are talking 5% of users.


Actually, we’re talking about _millions_ of people. And millions more per quarter.

Looking at the Mac userbase as a percentage is monumentally narrowminded. It’s a huge group of affluent people, Microsoft would be making a mistake if they don’t at least _eventually_ support Mac, even if it’s just an iSync plugin.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by REM2000 on Mon 15th Feb 2010 16:51 in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

Saying that Mac's only have 5% of the market, whilst true, is the reason we had problems with Microsoft and interoperability. 5% of the IT world is still as said before, millions and millions of machines, shutting these out is going back down a dark path that Microsoft at the end of the ninties was enjoying. Phones should be open, the internet is open so all attached computers should be aswell.

How many mac users, use activesync (i.e. connect to corp exchange servers) to read emails and manage their calendars, only a small percent of that 5% marketshare, however it's still as important as any other feature to make platforms more connected in todays world, which connectivity is everything.

As for the phone itself, i think if Microsoft can release into the public, the same fluid innovative UI shown in the preview then Microsoft is a serious competitor. I like the idea of hubs / zones of information, the interaction looked humanised and not so based around computer desktop designs. To me it had elements of flicking through a book, which i find a very good ui.

If my introducing this new UI and Mobile Phone OS, Microsoft has to kill some other features such as multitasking, then i say it's a small price to pay for the average user. I admit some power users will need to multitask, however the UI here for the average user negates the need for multitasking.

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