Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 25th Feb 2010 10:18 UTC
Humor BBC News reports "Mark your diaries for 4 March because in Denver the funeral arrangements are well underway for the planned passing that day of Internet Explorer 6". There's a phobia of being buried alive but I think in this case, it's the living that are all too quick to be shoveling the dirt over as IE6 doesn't officially die until 2014 when Microsoft pull the life-support.
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RE[2]: I like IE6, really
by deathshadow on Fri 26th Feb 2010 03:54 UTC in reply to "RE: I like IE6, really"
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If IE goes away, that 95% of web will be able to use much better technologies and the whole web experience will be improved.

Things that 99% of internet users don't know enough about and don't care enough about to give a rats ass about.

Since the only web experience that will be better is that of lazy developers who can't seem to spend the extra time to learn to use any of their technologies properly.

Hell, ever notice half the 'tards bitching about IE still use tables for layout, spacer GIF's, clearing div's or even worse that stupid 'clearfix' nonsense, don't use valid markup making their HTML complete gibberish, don't use headings in a proper order if at all, have never heard of TH, CAPTION, LEGEND, FIELDSET - hell most of the time you are lucky if they use LABEL... Code to content ratios in excess of 10:1, don't practice semantic markup or separation of presentation from content, and have never even HEARD of things like graceful degradation?

Oh wait, that's probably all stuff that non-developers could give a rats ass about too! It's just sad when most developers cannot even bother to understand those, yet have the unmitigated gall to badmouth one browser version.

Admittedly, IE6 is a pain in the ass - but supporting it isn't THAT hard.

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RE[3]: I like IE6, really
by emilsedgh on Fri 26th Feb 2010 06:46 in reply to "RE[2]: I like IE6, really"
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I dont give a damn about these little issues. Im talking about supporting svg, text shadows, rounded borders, all new css3 stuff which i CANNOT use.

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RE[4]: I like IE6, really
by deathshadow on Fri 26th Feb 2010 21:03 in reply to "RE[3]: I like IE6, really"
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Im talking about supporting svg, text shadows, rounded borders, all new css3 stuff which i CANNOT use.

... most of which shouldn't be using on production code given the CSS3 specification is not even out of DRAFT. That's what DRAFT MEANS!!!

Lemme weave you a tale of a browser called IE 5.x; IE 5 in all it's iterations were the most standards compliant browsers of their time because by the time of IE 5.5 they had implemented as 'usable' most of CSS2 and all of HTML 4 - when both specifications were still in DRAFT.

When the specification came out of draft things like the broken box model, improper float behaviors and a whole host of other things became apparent - but fixing it would have broken three years+ worth of people coding to the broken model based on the draft specification... This is why IE6 added the doctype 'standards mode' trigger in the first place. Even with that trigger there are still errors and problems we code around...


Draft means not for production code - end of story. GET USED TO IT. It's like the retards who bitch about beta's being buggy. SAME THING.

It's also what -moz and -webkit means; If it was ready for real use on websites, it would be called by it's real name and not prefixed.

Draft is for playing around with to see what might be possible someday, and for testing to make suggestions before it goes final - NOT for making production code!!!

Besides apart from SVG and text-shadow (which in most cases the latter just makes **** harder to read) there isn't a damned thing you mentioned that cannot be done in HTML4/CSS2 via techniques like sliding doors - hell, MOST of the time you'll still want sliding doors instead of the auto-rounding of corners if you want gradients, control over the aliasing, or anything fancier than 'ooh look, I cut one corner off'.

Though it's funny you mention SVG since IE had SVG support BEFORE any other browser thanks to an Adobe plugin - **** like that is what plugins are FOR!

It's just Adobe dropped it like a hot potato when nobody gave a flying fig about SVG for six years so they bought out the owner of it's competitor - Macromedia. Moment they owned Flash... SVG became a discontinued second class citizen.

ONLY reason we got a new version in Jan '09 was because of a security hole. Even the 2005 release was a bugfix and it hasn't seen a real update since 2001.

IE is able to support SVG, you just need to write a activeX plugin to handle it.

Edited 2010-02-26 21:07 UTC

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