Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Feb 2010 12:22 UTC, submitted by kragil
Gnome GNOME hacker Seth Nickell has written a lengthy PDF and accompanying blog post with a number of very interesting ideas for GNOME 3.0. I pondered putting this up on the front page, but since that usually only attracts the "It's not what I'm used to so it sucks"-crowd, I decided to put it up here. Be sure to read the blog post, the PDF, and the comments on the blog post to get the entire picture.
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abraxas
Member since:
2005-07-07

If you read the developer docs for GNOME the reason they chose C for GNOME and GTK+ is because the C++ object system is not as runtime-centric as the one created for GTK+. GTK+ makes binding to interpreted languages much smoother. For QT you need MOC, which just sucks if you're a C++ programmer that isn't already familiar with QT. You would be better off with GTKmm than QT if you like to program in C++. It may not be an issue for you but a lot of people really hate MOC, mostly because it is a non-C++ way of doing things.

Edited 2010-03-01 14:59 UTC

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

GTK+ makes binding to interpreted languages much smoother.


I can tolerate some lack of smoothness if someone else is doing the binding work.

For QT you need MOC, which just sucks if you're a C++ programmer that isn't already familiar with QT.


Moc sucks for people who never used Qt, only read about it. Even beginners can mostly ignore it.

You would be better off with GTKmm than QT if you like to program in C++.


I hear people saying that more often than I see people using gtkmm. People that are ok with c++ tend to go for Qt, while people that like Gtk+ seem to hate c++ with varying levels of passion.

It may not be an issue for you but a lot of people really hate MOC, mostly because it is a non-C++ way of doing things.


As always, people tend to whine. In the meantime, ever increasing number of people are discovering Qt and totally dig it. Qt under LGPL is probably among the biggest boons to linux app development in the last n+1 years, and people are starting to realize this...

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Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Smoke

It is how KDE do, and it work quite well. MOC are not perfect, but they give some muscle to C++, bringing it closer to C# and Java#. I don't think you will change your mind unless Gnome devs admit their way is a not go, but that may never happen. Vala was some kind of attempt to solve those problems, but if it is not part of Gnome3/GTK3 default, then it may never bubble up as a viable alternative to C. And while we talk about dirty hack in both Qt and Gnome, I think the Gnome implementation of Objects in a non-object language is much worst than MOC-files.

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