Linked by Kroc Camen on Sun 28th Feb 2010 20:42 UTC
Podcasts Kroc, Thom and David devote a show to the discussion of monopolies. What defines a monopoly, what has it to do with morals, and what positive and negative effects monopolies have on the market. Microsoft and Google are mentioned throughout as we try to place the current position Google finds itself in in context with the massive change in the technology world since Microsoft was king of the hill.
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BigBentheAussie
Member since:
2008-03-29

Does Google mis-use its power?
I think this is the main topic for discussion.

Google makes practically ALL of its money from web advertising and had no business doing Chrome or ChromeOS and especially Chromium. I think they're just grandstanding for attention and trying to pit themselves up against a Goliath like MS as though they were David, solely for PR. "They just want to improve the web experience". Give me a break, they just want to puff up their shoulders next to Microsoft.

We had OSes.... We had web browsers.... and what Google did with IE was juvenile. I wouldn't like an app I wrote hacked to pop up as someone else's product. While slamming MS is amusing, I find the level of disrespect disgusting. It's all $hits and giggles until it happens to you.

Let's say you, or the company you work at, make a business from CRM software(as a general example). What F'ing business does Google have invading that market and undercutting you to oblivion with free software. That's what they're doing in other markets, how do you know they won't expand into others for no reason whatsoever than because they can due to having more money than they know what to do with. Yeah, the consumer will win, but only the largest software company could compete with them and they'll bankrupt all the smaller ones and the consumer will have less choice. They are like Walmart, and what they would be doing would be tantamount to bullying. It would be tantamount to what MS did to OEMs. Don't think it wont happen.

Why don't Google just stick to what they're good at and leave the software industry alone to make a buck. It's their delusions of grandier(justified or not) and delusions of altruism, their schizophrenia and unpredictable nature that scares me most. They're a big dirty business that I am sure thinks nothing of stomping on smaller ones.

But by far the most disturbing and far reaching thing, which I am surprised was not mentioned in the podcast, is the lack of concern shown by Google's CEO over privacy.... and what they did with Buzz drives the point home. I would cancel my G-mail account immediately, if I had one, if that happened to me. Privacy is a slippery slope....and they've crossed the line and are not apologetic.

Does Google mis-use its power?
It is only a matter of time... and to some extent they already have and you're just rationalising, probably because you hate MS more. Do no evil....yeah right. They're a wolf in sheep's clothing.... and soon enough they'll be coming for you.

You think I'm being paranoid? You just wait....

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chrisfriberg Member since:
2009-04-08

OK, I'll bite.

Does Google mis-use its power?
I think this is the main topic for discussion.

Google makes practically ALL of its money from web advertising and had no business doing Chrome or ChromeOS and especially Chromium...It's all $hits and giggles until it happens to you.


The underlying reason was because MS's browser sets ALL serious web development back. I hope it doesn't happen to me, because I hope I would never build something that benefits only me and hinders everyone else and then have to be slapped in the face for it.
But by far the most disturbing and far reaching thing, which I am surprised was not mentioned in the podcast, is the lack of concern shown by Google's CEO over privacy.... and what they did with Buzz drives the point home. I would cancel my G-mail account immediately, if I had one, if that happened to me. Privacy is a slippery slope....and they've crossed the line and are not apologetic.


New google privacy conspiracy? Naah. They made changes to the buzz thing to make it easier to understand privacy settings after the fiasco. I think Google was the only one who lost any profit or reputation during the initial release of buzz. Apologize for what?

You want privacy? Stay off the internet.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Google is trying to destabilize all of its primary competitors -- Microsoft, Apple, etc -- in order to grab market share. They can afford to give away their software for free. Most of it is crap. Permanently in Beta. Google will reach its breaking point when it has to actually support all of its customers with enterprise level agreements.

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