Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Mar 2010 21:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV "A lot of commercial software comes with H.264 encoders and decoders, and some computers arrive with this software preinstalled. This leads a lot of people to believe that they can legally view and create H.264 videos for whatever purpose they like. Unfortunately for them, it ain't so."
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RE[2]: Greed
by r_a_trip on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 10:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Greed"
r_a_trip
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2005-07-06

Oh yes, greed. God forbid anyone get paid for any of this...

Well, if it is offered at inequitable terms this is exactly what should happen. The product should just wither away; unused and unpaid.

You are free to manufacture something and try to sell it at whatever terms you set to the market, but that is where it ends. If the market balks at your terms, you should not have the "right" to force a sale to someone who doesn't want it.

H.264 may be the best video codec in existence in the universe right now, but technical aspects aside, the licensing aspect makes a contract with the devil seem like a picnic. At least the devil does it on a per soul basis and keeps his sales voluntary. MPEG-LA owns (or tries to own) everybodies hide who has watched an H.264 encoded video.

The most funny thing about H.264 is that it is akin to a tin can. It is a container, not the stuff that people really want. We want to watch the video, not marvel in what tin can it is wrapped. I'd rather pay in time or bandwith or even in lower quality, before I'm criminalized by a fancy tin can.

MPEG-LA should choke in their codec. This is not about "fighting the power". This is telling an overbearing, soulless entity to just shove it.

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RE[3]: Greed
by nt_jerkface on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 18:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Greed"
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2009-08-26



The most funny thing about H.264 is that it is akin to a tin can. It is a container, not the stuff that people really want. We want to watch the video, not marvel in what tin can it is wrapped. I'd rather pay in time or bandwith or even in lower quality, before I'm criminalized by a fancy tin can.


It's a highly complex algorithm that saves companies money, period. If it were as simple to create as a tin can it would have died on the market years ago.

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RE[4]: Greed
by r_a_trip on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 18:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Greed"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

It's a highly complex algorithm that saves companies money...

Yes it is a highly complex algorithm and it still is a tin can. H.264 itself doesn't contain anything one can watch. The real value of a video is not what container it is wrapped in, the value is in what it depicts.

So H.264 is a tin can that could potentially save money on bandwidth, but on the other hand one has to factor in the legal costs of possible non-compliance. There are other tin can designs that might cost a little more to ship around, but these cans come with a lot less legal hassle.

From the viewpoint of an end user H.264 is just a costly tin can, because at the end of the day, after all is said and done, Joe User foots the bill for it.

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