Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Mar 2010 16:58 UTC
Legal We have some very, very good news for Europeans (which happens to include myself): we have the European Parliament on our sides when it comes to battling ACTA. If you may recall, ACTA is basically an attempt by the US to impose upon the rest of the world draconian measures like three strikes laws and the DMCA. All parties within the European Parliament have together put forth a resolution that would effectively tackle ACTA.
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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Oh so you don't believe in a total right to privacy on the internet. You just want privacy when people are downloading copyrighted material. Got it.


Erm, you still don't get it, do you?

I live in a country where downloading is NOT illegal. As such, it makes no sense to violate people's privacy to counter something that IS NOT ILLEGAL. Child pornography IS illegal, and as such, it makes total sense to combat it.

You might not care about Dutch law, but I personally kinda do, since I, uhm, live here. When I go to the US, I will respect your laws as well. I will not download anything when I'm in the US, because I know it's against US law.

I would like you to apologise for repeatedly branding me a criminal, without any form of proof or whatsoever. I'm not the first person you've repeatedly branded a criminal on the OSNews boards, and as the admin here, I cannot stand idly by. I'm giving you the opportunity to apologise to me; if you refuse, I'll have to take further action.

It is your prerogative to profess your opinion, but it is not your prerogative to brand me a criminal without proof. What you are doing is defamation, and that's against the law.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

No I will not respect a law that I find to be highly unprincipled. If I visited a country I would follow the laws but that does not mean that I have to accept them as a valid rationalization for the behavior that they allow.

Allowing people to download cloned content without any incentive to purchase it from the people who created that content is an acceptance of piracy. Call it what you want but the results are the same.

If you implemented such a system worldwide you would destroy millions of paychecks that go to the technically minded who were miserable in high school but can now make a living by doing something they love. The two guys a few blocks from me that make a very average living by selling a niche Mac utility would see their business destroyed if people could download a clone instead of paying them.



As for an apology there is no proof that you torrent movies and though that comment was made in jest I take it back none the less.

Though my nick is "nt_jerkface" it is really an inside joke from another blog and should probably be changed. I think it might too often give the impression that I have some attachment to the NT kernel, which is false. I actually spend a lot more time reading about Unix kernels.

So if you want to kill my account then that's fine because my nick is a poor representation in the first place. I'd rather not have my ip banned but that is of course up to you.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Who said anything about software piracy? There's a special clause in Dutch copyright law which excludes software from the downloading-is-okay rule.

As for the rest of your comment - the Dutch system is effectively already in effect worldwide. Downloading is barely acted upon, making it de-facto legal. Everybody does it, and yet there's no meltdown, disproving your theory.

Edited 2010-03-10 02:10 UTC

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