Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Mar 2010 20:42 UTC
Google It's been quiet about the Google-China dispute for a while now, but today, the silence was broken by China's minister of Industry and Information Technology, Li Yizhong, who stated that Google must either obey Chinese law or "pay the consequences", leaving no room for a compromise. With more and more western countries building their own internet filters and internet monitoring schemes, it becomes ever harder to make a strong fist against China.
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RE[2]: Justification
by Vanger on Fri 12th Mar 2010 21:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Justification"
Vanger
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2007-11-28

witness Eastern Europe's increased political in Poland etc where the people feel they can make a difference now.
Ukraine reporting in.
Total frustration from politics, lack of choice, no future here.

Well, I, for one, welcome or new Chinese overlords as they pave the way for all countries in a truly digital millenium.

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RE[3]: Justification
by StaubSaugerNZ on Fri 12th Mar 2010 21:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Justification"
StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

witness Eastern Europe's increased political in Poland etc where the people feel they can make a difference now.
Ukraine reporting in.
Total frustration from politics, lack of choice, no future here.

Well, I, for one, welcome or new Chinese overlords as they pave the way for all countries in a truly digital millenium.


Yes, your choices may be bland but you don't have to fight on the streets. Also, I see Ukraine struggles with economic progress while making strides in political progress. Although the interests of your bigger neighbour clearly affects both.

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RE[4]: Justification
by Vanger on Fri 12th Mar 2010 21:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Justification"
Vanger Member since:
2007-11-28

Yes, your choices may be bland but you don't have to fight on the streets.
Yep, just dwell in crime and quietly depopulate.

Also, I see Ukraine struggles with economic progress while making strides in political progress.
You don't see anything.
Last remnants of soviet industry are being either sold or deteriorate. New infrastructure is rarely built - with instability it makes no sense to make long investments, only the here-and-now. There is nothing to make economic progress on.
Political progress - well, going from a West-acclaimed nazi to a criminal that has been in prison two times, safely missing a woman who successfully escaped justice two times - you can call it a progress.

Although the interests of your bigger neighbour clearly affects both.
I wouldn't say so.
Russian business already owns what it wants and therefore is loyal to every government.
Russian politics - yes, but much lesser than EU and US.

Edited 2010-03-12 21:50 UTC

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RE[3]: Justification
by StaubSaugerNZ on Fri 12th Mar 2010 21:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Justification"
StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

witness Eastern Europe's increased political in Poland etc where the people feel they can make a difference now.
Ukraine reporting in.
Total frustration from politics, lack of choice, no future here.

Well, I, for one, welcome or new Chinese overlords as they pave the way for all countries in a truly digital millenium.


Nice joke. Would you truly swap making hard choices yourself for another country telling you what to do? The Holodomor from Ukraine's recent past springs to my mind as one reason not to.

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RE[4]: Justification
by Vanger on Fri 12th Mar 2010 21:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Justification"
Vanger Member since:
2007-11-28

Please, don't ever use propaganda copypasta against people who know their own history perfectly well ;) .

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