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GNU, GPL, Open Source Today's mobile space is owned by the likes of Nokia, RIM, Apple, and Google. While some of these corporations have embraced some open source components, a full FLOSS solution has yet to gain traction. Why? Blogger Bradley M. Kuhn posts thoughtful analysis of the current state of Open Source in the mobile space.
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Design Thinking
by puelocesar on Tue 16th Mar 2010 12:16 UTC
puelocesar
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2008-10-30

I'm kind of disappointed with open source software these days.. It seems they stopped innovating, and are only creating technology for the sake of creating technology.. All we see now on open source communities is this run for "eye candy" and stuff that "bling", but that's not really design. They should start to think on the purpose of tech as a human empowerment, and on how to make human life better with tech, not on copying Apple's animations and transitions.

Other problem I see is that when there is actually a innovation, like that semantic desktop thing kde and gnome people are working, they are never conceptually resolved, I mean, there is a concept, but it seems that nobody get it the same way, and we end with a mess on the software that make it unusable.

I really hope people on open source communities get that the user experience involves much more than just usability and unpolished eye candy.

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RE: Design Thinking
by Laurence on Tue 16th Mar 2010 13:18 in reply to "Design Thinking"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

I'm kind of disappointed with open source software these days.. It seems they stopped innovating, and are only creating technology for the sake of creating technology..


Innovation born from creating technology for the sake of creating technology.

Every technological advancement that immediately springs to mind has been created because someone thought "that kind of works, but wouldn't it work better if we added a bit of technology here"

Also, I think you're not taking into account that we're somewhat at a plateau in terms of development.
There isn't much that can be innovated which isn't just an evolutionary step.
Add to that the fact that open source generates less funding than proprietary solutions and that we are currently in a global recession, and it's not all that surprising that many releases are all about the "spit and polish" instead of huge revolutionary break-throughs.


And finally, I do think you can find innovative open source if you look for it: ZFS, dtrace, zones, xen, etc.
I don't know if most of the innovation appears to happen away from desktop because I'm more aware of enterprise solutions or if there is actually just not that much innovation on the desktop because most desktop users care about user experience and fancy desktop effects and theres better funding in enterprise solutions. But there is definitely still innovation on open source.

I really hope people on open source communities get that the user experience involves much more than just usability and unpolished eye candy.


user experience /IS/ usability and eye candy.

Everything else resides under the hood and is something only developers for that platform and techies/geeks would notice and/or care.

You have to remember exactly what a 'user' is when defining a user experience.



It's a pity you got market down though as, while I disagreed with nearly every point you've made, you do still raise an interesting argument.

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RE[2]: Design Thinking
by puelocesar on Tue 16th Mar 2010 13:27 in reply to "RE: Design Thinking"
puelocesar Member since:
2008-10-30

"user experience /IS/ usability and eye candy.

Everything else resides under the hood and is something only developers for that platform and techies/geeks would notice and/or care. "

I think you misunderstand me. User experience involves Information Architeture, Interaction Design, Visual Design, Behavior Studies, and heck, even Anthropological studies. Usability engineering is just a fraction of it.

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RE[2]: Design Thinking
by puelocesar on Tue 16th Mar 2010 13:36 in reply to "RE: Design Thinking"
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2008-10-30

"because most desktop users care about user experience and fancy desktop effects and theres better funding in enterprise solutions."

That's a unfunded affirmation. People want things to work. They want to work <strong>with</strong> technology, not work <strong>for</strong> techonology. Apple is loved not because of the desktop effects, it's because of simplicity, well defined goals and technology that helps people get their stuff done.

This mentality of users want eye candy must stop. Eye candy without purpose just get in people's way. But if used to improve familiarity and fluidness on interfaces they can bring great value.

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RE[2]: Design Thinking
by strcpy on Tue 16th Mar 2010 14:16 in reply to "RE: Design Thinking"
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2009-05-20


Everything else resides under the hood and is something only developers for that platform and techies/geeks would notice and/or care.


No disagreements. But did it occur to you that maybe he referred to things like Ubuntu? Whose only recent innovation has been to change the color palette? At least from judging from the press attention.

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RE: Design Thinking
by strcpy on Tue 16th Mar 2010 14:15 in reply to "Design Thinking"
strcpy Member since:
2009-05-20

e on open source communities get that the user experience involves much more than just usability and unpolished eye candy.


Don't worry. There are plenty of people who think similarly. Don't let the modding down upset you; it is relatively common when you say something critical about the Wonderland.

About the article: ok, but way too biased towards the "FLOSS" (like the other acronyms wouldn't be enough) and FSF/GPL generally, at least for me to take it seriously.

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RE[2]: Design Thinking
by lemur2 on Tue 16th Mar 2010 14:20 in reply to "RE: Design Thinking"
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2007-02-17

Don't let the modding down upset you; it is relatively common when you say something critical about the Wonderland.


Modded down for complete inaccuracy. Apple doesn't innovate, it merely polishes existing ideas.

FOSS is many times more innovative than Apple.

It is fair enough to criticise if it bears some semblance to truth, but I don't see the point of outright lies.

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RE: Design Thinking
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 16th Mar 2010 14:44 in reply to "Design Thinking"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Open source !== desktop software. That alone should get you modded into the hinterlands.

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