Linked by David Adams on Fri 19th Mar 2010 21:07 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Online advertising has been a hot topic for the past week or so, with Ars Technica trying out an interesting, somewhat desperate experiment wherein they blocked access to their content for people using Adblock. Of course, if this were to become some kind of movement among publishers, it would probably just spark a technological cat-and-mouse game that would surely be reminiscent of DRM cracking or iPhone jailbreaking. But in their post-mortem, Ars states that it was a worthwhile awareness campaign, and I hope that's true. But I thought it would be a good idea to try to bring the collective OSNews brainpower together and crowdsource the idea of how to raise money for a web site in an age where advertising is increasingly un-viable.
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RE: Silly..
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 20th Mar 2010 12:19 UTC in reply to "Silly.."
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Ever since I was born my mind has been bombarded by advertising in many different forms. Because of this my mind has adapted to ignore all adverts in any form

In your dreams. You are always influenced by advertising - whether you like it or not. You can't turn off your brain. The impulses will reach the right place, whether you know it or not.

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RE[2]: Silly..
by Brendan on Sat 20th Mar 2010 13:31 in reply to "RE: Silly.."
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In your dreams. You are always influenced by advertising - whether you like it or not. You can't turn off your brain. The impulses will reach the right place, whether you know it or not.

An interesting theory - can you prove it?

In any test it'd be too easy for me to cheat, so I don't expect you to believe me. Instead, test yourself - you've been to OSnews at least twice (once to post your comment and once to read my reply). There's about 6 adverts on each page, so this means you've "seen" up to 12 adverts. How many of them do you remember?


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RE[3]: Silly..
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 20th Mar 2010 15:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Silly.."
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How many of them do you remember?

None, since I have the subscriber ad-free version.

However, you're missing the point. You're thinking about individual ads. That's not what matters.

It's the Coca Cola mentality. It's not Coke's idea to have you remember each and every ad they run. Coke's goal, decades ago, was to ensure that every person in the world would be confronted with Coke - either merely thinking of Coke or actually encountering merchandise - every x minutes.

If you visit OSNews every day, and you see an ad for a cleaning product every day for a week on end, you'll remember that brand (subconsciously) the next time you go out to buy a cleaning product.

This has been tested LIKE CRAZY in psychology, and confirmed over and over and over again. This is not some opinion or pseudo-science - it's fact. A simple starting point:

On a broader note: people have this tendency to believe they're special, unique, different. The truth is, however, that human behaviour is remarkably well-studied and well-documented, and even a few years of psychology at a decent university will teach you that no, people are not snowflakes.

You are vulnerable to advertising just as much as everybody else (on average), and nobody is immune to it. I know many like to think they are above advertising or above certain simple psychological principles - but you're not.

People are predictable, and as soon as you let go of this idealistic nonsense that people are snowflakes, and if you pay just a little bit attention, you'll soon discover that you can predict the behaviour of people around you to a startling degree of accuracy.

I have not been surprised by anyone since I can remember.

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RE[3]: Silly..
by alec on Sat 20th Mar 2010 16:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Silly.."
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It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt by plenty of serious research.

One can make a conscious effort to filter or resist advertising (or, for that matter, any propaganda in general). I, for one, try not to buy anything advertised to me, to an extent possible.

But on the subconscious level, the deed is done. We are all human.

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