Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Mar 2010 23:57 UTC
Internet Explorer "At last year's PDC, held in November, Microsoft showed a graph showing scores of a variety of Web browsers in the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark, to show off the progress that the company was making with Internet Explorer 9. Another such graph was shown off at the recent MIX event. What was most interesting about the graph was not IE9's progress, but Opera's."
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Wrong question.
by axilmar on Wed 24th Mar 2010 11:56 UTC
axilmar
Member since:
2006-03-20

The real question is: "Does Microsoft want to build a 100% standards-compliant browser?".

The answer is simple: no. A 100% standards-compliant browser would hurt their attempts at monopolizing the market.

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RE: Wrong question.
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 24th Mar 2010 12:06 in reply to "Wrong question."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

A 100% standards-compliant browser would hurt their attempts at monopolizing the market.


What market? The lucrative browser market?

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RE[2]: Wrong question.
by lemur2 on Wed 24th Mar 2010 12:42 in reply to "RE: Wrong question."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"A 100% standards-compliant browser would hurt their attempts at monopolizing the market.


What market? The lucrative browser market?
"

Possibly the must-have-windows-to-enjoy-the-web see-if-we-can-lock-them-all-in market.

The local Australian Rules footy team which I follow has fallen for this rubbish:

http://www.afc.com.au/

I get an "Install Microsoft Silverlight" button in the video windows.

Shudder!

Fortunately, there are a multitude of other sites (other than the official club site) that I can visit in order to follow this team's progress. Most of those follow web standards, and are of better quality anyway.

PS: This is off-topic, but anyway ... here is a sampler of why this sport is a great spectator sport:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5zpWzuWRg

Edited 2010-03-24 12:50 UTC

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RE[2]: Wrong question.
by Laurence on Wed 24th Mar 2010 12:59 in reply to "RE: Wrong question."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

"A 100% standards-compliant browser would hurt their attempts at monopolizing the market.
What market? The lucrative browser market? "


Arguably speaking, the OS market.

If everything continues to move over to "the cloud" (and MS have been talking about building subscription based online replacements for their desktop tools for at least a decade now) then Windows will become irrelevant if everything is cross-platform and standards compliment.

So if you can some how argue that the web works "better" on Windows than on ChromeOS, FF on Linux or Safari on OS X (etc) then Windows is still seen as the flagship OS for application availability.

This is why they keep pushing their own technologies like Silverlight. Sure Silverlight is cross platform (now), but if it becomes the primary method for pushing media-rich and/or interactive web services, then I'd bet Silverlight support on non-Microsoft platforms will quickly fall behind Silverlight development on Microsoft's own operating systems. Thus people will be enticed further towards Microsoft's own products.


Microsoft have always been very very good at knowing when to give away products and when to sell them. And they know full well that if you want to make money online, the best way is to give your browser away for free.

Heck, Google do exactly the same with Chrome, Android and ChromeOS. Drive consumers to your products by giving away other products for free (even Supermarkets use a similar technique here in the UK: they have huge deals on alcohol - often selling them at a loss - so customers pop in for a create of beer and pop out with a weeks worth of shopping).

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RE[2]: Wrong question.
by cerbie on Wed 24th Mar 2010 23:40 in reply to "RE: Wrong question."
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

No. The Lucrative DIlbertesque market of businesses who might be able to target anything if they didn't have to choose between IE and non-IE, in which case Windows shops go with IE, and thus have more reason to stay with Windows, get deeper into MS software use, and so on.

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RE: Wrong question.
by kaiwai on Wed 24th Mar 2010 14:10 in reply to "Wrong question."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

The real question is: "Does Microsoft want to build a 100% standards-compliant browser?".

The answer is simple: no. A 100% standards-compliant browser would hurt their attempts at monopolizing the market.


The response question is: Is there a single browser that implements every standard 100% to the letter?

The answer is simple: not a single one.

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RE[2]: Wrong question.
by Laurence on Wed 24th Mar 2010 15:15 in reply to "RE: Wrong question."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

The response question is: Is there a single browser that implements every standard 100% to the letter?

The answer is simple: not a single one.


Just because it's implausible to create a 100% "to the letter" standards compliant browser, it doesn't mean developers should give up and support their own "standards".

In this case striving for perfection is more important than actually reaching perfection. (ie MS should try to support the standards as closely as they can rather than make excuses as to why it's not worth their time).

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