Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Mar 2010 23:57 UTC
Internet Explorer "At last year's PDC, held in November, Microsoft showed a graph showing scores of a variety of Web browsers in the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark, to show off the progress that the company was making with Internet Explorer 9. Another such graph was shown off at the recent MIX event. What was most interesting about the graph was not IE9's progress, but Opera's."
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RE[2]: Wrong question.
by Laurence on Wed 24th Mar 2010 12:59 UTC in reply to "RE: Wrong question."
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"A 100% standards-compliant browser would hurt their attempts at monopolizing the market.
What market? The lucrative browser market? "

Arguably speaking, the OS market.

If everything continues to move over to "the cloud" (and MS have been talking about building subscription based online replacements for their desktop tools for at least a decade now) then Windows will become irrelevant if everything is cross-platform and standards compliment.

So if you can some how argue that the web works "better" on Windows than on ChromeOS, FF on Linux or Safari on OS X (etc) then Windows is still seen as the flagship OS for application availability.

This is why they keep pushing their own technologies like Silverlight. Sure Silverlight is cross platform (now), but if it becomes the primary method for pushing media-rich and/or interactive web services, then I'd bet Silverlight support on non-Microsoft platforms will quickly fall behind Silverlight development on Microsoft's own operating systems. Thus people will be enticed further towards Microsoft's own products.

Microsoft have always been very very good at knowing when to give away products and when to sell them. And they know full well that if you want to make money online, the best way is to give your browser away for free.

Heck, Google do exactly the same with Chrome, Android and ChromeOS. Drive consumers to your products by giving away other products for free (even Supermarkets use a similar technique here in the UK: they have huge deals on alcohol - often selling them at a loss - so customers pop in for a create of beer and pop out with a weeks worth of shopping).

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RE[3]: Wrong question.
by lemur2 on Wed 24th Mar 2010 13:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Wrong question."
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This is why they keep pushing their own technologies like Silverlight. Sure Silverlight is cross platform (now)

Your post was for the most part spot on, but for this bit.

Silverlight is not cross-platform. There are all kinds of caveats on Silverlight and .NET that amount to "you may not do that part on non-Windows platforms". ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows forms, for example. There are many platforms (ARM for example) that are not supported.

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RE[4]: Wrong question.
by Laurence on Wed 24th Mar 2010 15:07 in reply to "RE[3]: Wrong question."
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Can Silverlight play on multiple platforms then?

I've avoided the technology (for the reasons stated in my previous post) so I will admit I'm a touch ignorant in regards to it's multi-platform capabilities, but I was under the impression Microsoft released a Linux and OS X Silverlight player?

Or are you stating that Silverlight is a bit like OOXML - in theory it can run on any platform but in practice there's references to Microsoft-only technology that limited the products functionality on non-MS products.

Edited 2010-03-24 15:09 UTC

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RE[4]: Wrong question.
by nt_jerkface on Wed 24th Mar 2010 20:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Wrong question."
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Silverlight is not cross-platform.

It is cross-platform. It works across multiple platforms.

Maybe it isn't cross-platform enough for you, but that is a separate issue.

Silverlight is great competitor to Flash as seen by Bing maps.

You also have to remember that Silverlight is not just about what it can do, it's also about the framework. It allows .net developers to quickly adapt to web development. You can't expect those developers to switch to some HTML5 javascript implementation for the sake of your own ideals. The same goes for developers who are experts in Flex.

You should probably also save your advocacy energy for when HTML5 is ready to compete with Flash and Silverlight. It simply isn't ready yet.

Until then you can amuse yourself with these Flash games:

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