Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Mar 2010 09:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless There are various trains of thought regarding Apple suing HTC, and one of them is that Apple feels threatened by Android's rise in popularity. Some laughed this away, but when you look at recent statistics regarding mobile web usage, it becomes pretty clear Apple has every reason to feel threatened by Google's mobile operating system.
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iPhone vs. Android
by fuzzywombat on Mon 29th Mar 2010 13:05 UTC
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I just don't think Apple can keep up with the sheer number of Android phones coming to market these days. Samsung, Motorola, LG, HTC, and soon Sony Ericsson are offering multitude of features, size, style and prices while iPhone has just one handset with different storage capacities and prices. Every one of these companies in Open Handset Alliance have multiple handsets in the product development pipeline while Apple seems to have a release cycle of one hardware update per year. The sheer selection of devices and wireless service providers makes Android much more flexible platform at this point.

Apple has to address couple of issues with the iPhone or they'll once again have a single digit market share product in the long run.

1. AT&T exclusivity. iPhone needs to be on multiple carriers especially Verizon to compete against the Android onslaught.

2. App Store. The current state of App Store is not sustainable. It's almost impossible to find apps because of the sheer number of apps and the search system is entirely inadequate. The ratings system is largely broken and they skew towards the negative since users rate the app during uninstall process. The app approval policy is a mess and it's getting worse.

3. Multitasking. If you've used Android for couple of days, you'll know that lack of multitasking is single biggest technical drawback on the iPhone. The purported stability and battery life issues with multitasking aren't entirely a myth but it's definitely overblown by far. Ability to multitask makes a huge difference on how you interact with the device as well as what kind of apps are possible on the Android.

4. Performance. The Droid and Nexus One are much snappier than the iPhone. This is immediately noticeable when launching and using apps.

5. Screen. AMOLED screen is indeed much better than what iPhone has to offer. The long explanation about how pixel count of Nexus One AMOLED screen isn't what they say they claim doesn't matter. You just have to look at the Nexus One and iPhone screens side by side and you know which is better hands down.

6. Keyboard. If you are going to win over the Blackberry crowd, you have to have a real keyboard. There is a segment of the smartphone users that will never even consider to buy the iPhone because it doesn't have a keyboard. You can point, scream, taunt, and jump up and down all day but that's not going to change this simple fact.

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RE: iPhone vs. Android
by majipoor on Mon 29th Mar 2010 13:50 in reply to "iPhone vs. Android"
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2009-01-22

1. FYI, Apple does not only sell in the US and it sells on multiple carriers often. But it would sell better in the US indeed without exclusivity.

2. Agree mostly. Approval policy is however not a critical point IMHO as it concern only a small fraction of developers. My guess if that this will be addressed somehow soon (iPhone OS 4)

3. Don't agree. This is mostly BS from tech saavy people. But multi-tasking is more important on the iPad and it should comes with iPhoneOS 4, at least on the iPad.

4. iPhone 3GS is snappy and I don't feel a real need for better performances. The iPhone 3GS is however now 1 year old and you will most probably get a boost un performances with iPhone 4G within 2-3 months.

5. I like OLED (I'm a shareholder in Universal Display ;) , but NOW, AMOLED are not much better as they are worst in some circumstances. Moreover, AFAIK, not enough AMOLED screens are produced worldwide for the iPhone (remember: the Nexus One has been sold 200k only). OLED screen will come to iPhone someday, but not in the immediate future and I don't see it as a real issue.

6. I would say then that this segment of the market is not targeted by Apple. I don't think Apple want to target 100% of smartphone market.

Conclusion: iPhoneOS 4 and iPhone 4G should push Apple ahead of other actors again in smartphone market and considering that Apple has also iPod Touch and now iPad running on iPhoneOS platform, I would say that the iPhoneOS platform is WELL ahead of competitirs in mobile devices market.

Because indeed most of you forget to see the iPhoneOS as a platform, the iPhone being only one part of this platform (same for Android which is probably the only true competitor to iPhoneOS).

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RE[2]: iPhone vs. Android
by spiderman on Mon 29th Mar 2010 14:51 in reply to "RE: iPhone vs. Android"
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2008-10-23


Conclusion: iPhoneOS 4 and iPhone 4G should push Apple ahead of other actors again in smartphone market and considering that Apple has also iPod Touch and now iPad running on iPhoneOS platform, I would say that the iPhoneOS platform is WELL ahead of competitirs in mobile devices market.

Because indeed most of you forget to see the iPhoneOS as a platform, the iPhone being only one part of this platform (same for Android which is probably the only true competitor to iPhoneOS).

Even including the iPod and the iPad, the iPhoneOS is far from the big OS in term of market share. It's ahead in pinching but not in market share, far from it.

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RE[2]: iPhone vs. Android
by troyfarrell on Mon 29th Mar 2010 17:25 in reply to "RE: iPhone vs. Android"
troyfarrell Member since:
2010-03-29

On the topic of multitasking on a phone...

3. Don't agree. This is mostly BS from tech saavy people. But multi-tasking is more important on the iPad and it should comes with iPhoneOS 4, at least on the iPad.

Have you ever used a webOS device? Multitasking is a big deal on a smartphone and Palm got it right.

Full-disclosure: I own a (non-refurbished) first-generation Palm Pre. I love it.

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RE[2]: iPhone vs. Android
by scofmb on Mon 29th Mar 2010 18:04 in reply to "RE: iPhone vs. Android"
scofmb Member since:
2010-02-20

Multitasking is really usefull and you didnt give any reason to disagree.. i love been able to browser, copy some txt i want and paste it in evernote.... i know you can do that in the iphone, but here u dont need to "close" the browser.
or reading an epub, find a word i dont know and go to search for a definition in google without having to wait to the app to load.

Sry.. multitasking is really useful for me and im not a techsaavy.

and btw, checking your comments.. do you work for apple? u only comment on news related to them and only to praise them

Edited 2010-03-29 18:07 UTC

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