Linked by Kroc Camen on Mon 29th Mar 2010 16:04 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Hot on the heals of Oracle's revamp of Solaris support, the licensing agreement for free downloads of Solaris 10 have changed. Here is the bit in question: "...Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software". So far the OpenSolaris license has not changed, it's still CDDL."
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Does anybody care?
by darknexus on Mon 29th Mar 2010 19:12 UTC
darknexus
Member since:
2008-07-15

Does anyone really care what Oracle says in its new license? Those who are running Solaris 10 in a commercial environment most likely have a support contract already. Those who don't have a contract will use it anyway if they want, it's not as though Oracle has put a lock on the software itself or can monitor your usage of Solaris 10. They might very well do something of the sort in the next version of Solaris, but until then they're all talk and no teeth.

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RE: Does anybody care?
by galvanash on Mon 29th Mar 2010 22:24 in reply to "Does anybody care?"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Does anyone really care what Oracle says in its new license? Those who are running Solaris 10 in a commercial environment most likely have a support contract already. Those who don't have a contract will use it anyway if they want, it's not as though Oracle has put a lock on the software itself or can monitor your usage of Solaris 10. They might very well do something of the sort in the next version of Solaris, but until then they're all talk and no teeth.


The entire Open Source world is built upon the foundation of licensing, the GPL and almost all other open source licenses do not function without the notion of accepting software licensing as legally binding.

I would say the complete opposite is reality - no one really cares about silly attempts at restricting usage through stupid software tricks. The license is the only thing that matters.

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RE[2]: Does anybody care?
by darknexus on Tue 30th Mar 2010 01:15 in reply to "RE: Does anybody care?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I wasn't saying they shouldn't, just putting a reality check on the situation. The majority of people use what they wish to use without even looking at the license, and it's not as though people running a home server with Solaris 10 are going to not use it because Oracle says you must have a support contract. People *should* respect the license, but my question wasn't about what people should do but rather what they will do. I'm of the opinion that Oracle is just covering their butts. I doubt they're going to go after anyone who's using Solaris 10 without a contract, but this is their way of telling you that they will not support you nor will they even listen to your support questions. If they actively wanted to lock people away, they would've implemented something in the software side because, let's face it, that's primarily what stops a lot of people who don't even read a license. It's just their way of saying you're unsupported and completely on your own.

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RE[2]: Does anybody care?
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 30th Mar 2010 01:44 in reply to "RE: Does anybody care?"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14

"Does anyone really care what Oracle says in its new license? Those who are running Solaris 10 in a commercial environment most likely have a support contract already. Those who don't have a contract will use it anyway if they want, it's not as though Oracle has put a lock on the software itself or can monitor your usage of Solaris 10. They might very well do something of the sort in the next version of Solaris, but until then they're all talk and no teeth.


The entire Open Source world is built upon the foundation of licensing, the GPL and almost all other open source licenses do not function without the notion of accepting software licensing as legally binding.

I would say the complete opposite is reality - no one really cares about silly attempts at restricting usage through stupid software tricks. The license is the only thing that matters.
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you dont seem to understand how software licenses works. FOSS licenses like GPL take effect at the point of distribution, not usage. EULAs are the ones that takes effect at the point of usage.

YOu are talking about EULAs if you are talking about restricting software usage

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RE: Does anybody care?
by jptros on Tue 30th Mar 2010 16:36 in reply to "Does anybody care?"
jptros Member since:
2005-08-26

If you care at all about applying security patches without a contract is does indeed matter. Less important, but it also states that if your support contract expires that you are to remove any patches that you have installed. I personally think it sucks they have removed access to security updates for people with no support contract but they must be insane if they think people with a functioning solaris system are going to up and remove patches from the system because they let their support contract lapse... I mean give me a break. Cut off access to patches? Sure. Uninstall the patches on a production system because we didn't renew our support contract... yeah sure.

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