Linked by Kroc Camen on Mon 29th Mar 2010 16:04 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Hot on the heals of Oracle's revamp of Solaris support, the licensing agreement for free downloads of Solaris 10 have changed. Here is the bit in question: "...Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software". So far the OpenSolaris license has not changed, it's still CDDL."
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RE[2]: Does anybody care?
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 30th Mar 2010 01:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Does anybody care?"
mtzmtulivu
Member since:
2006-11-14

"Does anyone really care what Oracle says in its new license? Those who are running Solaris 10 in a commercial environment most likely have a support contract already. Those who don't have a contract will use it anyway if they want, it's not as though Oracle has put a lock on the software itself or can monitor your usage of Solaris 10. They might very well do something of the sort in the next version of Solaris, but until then they're all talk and no teeth.


The entire Open Source world is built upon the foundation of licensing, the GPL and almost all other open source licenses do not function without the notion of accepting software licensing as legally binding.

I would say the complete opposite is reality - no one really cares about silly attempts at restricting usage through stupid software tricks. The license is the only thing that matters.
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you dont seem to understand how software licenses works. FOSS licenses like GPL take effect at the point of distribution, not usage. EULAs are the ones that takes effect at the point of usage.

YOu are talking about EULAs if you are talking about restricting software usage

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RE[3]: Does anybody care?
by galvanash on Tue 30th Mar 2010 02:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Does anybody care?"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

you dont seem to understand how software licenses works. FOSS licenses like GPL take effect at the point of distribution, not usage. EULAs are the ones that takes effect at the point of usage.


And you are bringing up meaningless distinctions that have nothing to do with my point. People that care about OSS honor licenses. The intricacies of contract vs copyright law and all the legal mumbo-jumbo involved with it doesn't alter my point - I was simply stating that by Oracle merely saying out loud they don't want unregistered usage is enough to make it obvious to anyone that the regime change at Sun means Solaris and OpenSolaris are going to be parting ways.

That is significant. On the other hand, any attempts on their part to actually enforce those restrictions will be significant only to pirates. OSS != piracy.

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RE[4]: Does anybody care?
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 30th Mar 2010 03:11 in reply to "RE[3]: Does anybody care?"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14


And you are bringing up meaningless distinctions that have nothing to do with my point. People that care about OSS honor licenses.


Yes they do, but FOSS licenses only take effect at the point of (re)distribution, not usage. UELAs are the ones that take effect at the point of usage.

I think the differences btw FOSS licenses and EULAs are not meaningless sir and I think it is crucial for people to know and understand the distinction btw them.

You talking about software usage restrictions and FOSS licenses implies either you dont know when FOSS licenses come into effect or you wrote your comment in an ambiguous way and it leads to misunderstandings

dont mean to criticize you sir, just trying to clarify stuff for those who dont know the difference btw something like microsoft EULA and the GPL

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