Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Mar 2010 21:55 UTC
Legal I guess this is what some people would call "karma". Apple may shout off the rooftops that it invented multitouch, and that anyone else using it is clearly stealing it from them - but another company has taken offence to that, and has slapped the Cupertino giant with a patent infringement suit over multitouch.
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RE: Interesting
by jonathane on Wed 31st Mar 2010 22:28 UTC in reply to "Interesting"
jonathane
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2009-05-31

The "pointing and control device" is the screen, which replaces an external mouse or trackpad.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by mrhasbean on Wed 31st Mar 2010 23:03 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2006-04-03

The "pointing and control device" is the screen, which replaces an external mouse or trackpad.


"...appropriate sequences to emulate the operations of cursor control and button actuations in a pointing and control device..."

The iPhone, iTouch and iPad don't have a "pointing and control device" - other than your finger - for it to be emulating, so I don't think this will fly against those devices. It is clearly a patent for trackpads so if anything they could sue Apple over their laptop range, unless of course Apple already pays license fees in regard of those.

Wasn't this patent issued to Logitech? Is this another patent troll?

And for those who keep on this ridiculous soapbox about Apple being "evil". FFS grow up will you. Apple are a company and are no more evil than any other company who want to make a profit. It's called capitalism, and if you don't like it go find some non-captialist country in which to reside - Cuba or North Korea would welcome you with open arms - and I'm sure your access to the internet and latest technology there would be tremendous.

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RE[3]: Interesting
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 31st Mar 2010 23:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The iPhone, iTouch and iPad don't have a "pointing and control device"


Had you read the patent more carefully, you would've noticed they are talking specifically about "touch sensors", which can be implemented in any pointing device - a touch pad or screen or whatever. In fact, the patent mentions the use of a screen quite clearly.

The iPhone's screen is still a pointing device, like any other touch screen or touch pad.

Wasn't this patent issued to Logitech? Is this another patent troll?


Luckily, no. This is an actual, real-world company that makes chips and touch screens, including those used in phones like the iPhone.

http://www.emc.com.tw/eng/index.asp

Edited 2010-03-31 23:10 UTC

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RE[3]: Interesting
by glarepate on Thu 1st Apr 2010 01:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting"
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2006-01-04

The iPhone, iTouch and iPad don't have a "pointing and control device" - other than your finger - for it to be emulating, so I don't think this will fly against those devices.

In the interest of promoting discussion as opposed to nitpicking your post:

The patent doesn't specify that the implemented functionality is emulating a pointing and control device that already exists on the device in question, just that it emulates one. Maybe even one that isn't on the device because it has an emulator instead of the p and c device.

To my way of thinking this doesn't mean that the patent doesn't apply to Apple's i-devices, just that your example, by invoking the non-existent restriction of already having to have such an interface device and then providing an additional emulated one, doesn't capture the meaning of the patent's claims.

Does that make sense to you or do I just sound like I'm trying to make you look bad? Sorry if the latter.

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RE[3]: Interesting
by Soulbender on Thu 1st Apr 2010 04:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting"
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2005-08-18

Apple are a company and are no more evil than any other company who want to make a profit.


Ah, just like Elan, HTC and Nokia.

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