Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Mar 2010 21:55 UTC
Legal I guess this is what some people would call "karma". Apple may shout off the rooftops that it invented multitouch, and that anyone else using it is clearly stealing it from them - but another company has taken offence to that, and has slapped the Cupertino giant with a patent infringement suit over multitouch.
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RE[3]: Good news?
by WereCatf on Wed 31st Mar 2010 22:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Good news?"
WereCatf
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2006-02-15

Oh, WTH, this is great news. I love the irony of the entire situation :-D

Dear sir, you sure aren't the only one! Apple has been suing people over multitouch, they've been threatening, they've been bullying, they've been doing everything they can to piss other people and companies off..and now they are getting sued themselves over the EXACT same thing. Oh god, this is wonderful!

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RE[4]: Good news?
by tyrione on Thu 1st Apr 2010 05:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Good news?"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Oh, WTH, this is great news. I love the irony of the entire situation :-D

Dear sir, you sure aren't the only one! Apple has been suing people over multitouch, they've been threatening, they've been bullying, they've been doing everything they can to piss other people and companies off..and now they are getting sued themselves over the EXACT same thing. Oh god, this is wonderful!


FWIW: Apple is defending their patents after several companies ignored them and went ahead and chose to produce products and see if Apple will sue.

HTC will lose. Google is already in talks with Apple at the top brass to figure out how to diffuse the situation and Nokia is going to fall on its face with it's request while having to deal with Apple's counter.

Whether you like it or not, Apple has amassed nearly 4000 patents since 2004 for their latest products.

They've learned from the past. They won't repeat that mistake.

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RE[5]: Good news?
by Laurence on Thu 1st Apr 2010 10:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Good news?"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Apple is defending their patents after several companies ignored them and went ahead and chose to produce products and see if Apple will sue.

There's a difference between patenting new technology and patenting a fairly standard idea.
Most of Apples patents were so absurdly run-of-the-mill that short of all smart phones defaulting to a CLI, there was bound to be infringements.

For example: "using a gesture to unlock a phone" is hardly innovative. Gestures to unlock devices have been standard practice whether it's a hardware switch to flip open a laptop lid to a key you turn to open a door. Apple wasn't pioneering a revolution there, they were patenting the bloody obvious.

HTC will lose.

Thanks for that legal insight, however I think I'll wait for the real lawyers and judges to have their say before jumping to any conclusions.
If history has taught us anything, it's usually hard to predict just who will win in these cases (hence why so many of them are settled out of court).

Google is already in talks with Apple at the top brass to figure out how to diffuse the situation

That is standard practice. Not proof of a possible result.

and Nokia is going to fall on its face with it's request while having to deal with Apple's counter.

See point #2

Furthermore what makes you think Nokia's GSM -for example- patents (technology Nokia did develop) are less relevant than Apples patents.

Surely by stating that Apple has a right to uphold their patent portfolio but Nokia's patents are worthless is employing a huge dose of double standards

Whether you like it or not, Apple has amassed nearly 4000 patents since 2004 for their latest products.

See point #1

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RE[5]: Good news?
by TechGeek on Thu 1st Apr 2010 14:24 in reply to "RE[4]: Good news?"
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2006-01-14


FWIW: Apple is defending their patents after several companies ignored them and went ahead and chose to produce products and see if Apple will sue.

HTC will lose. Google is already in talks with Apple at the top brass to figure out how to diffuse the situation and Nokia is going to fall on its face with it's request while having to deal with Apple's counter.

Whether you like it or not, Apple has amassed nearly 4000 patents since 2004 for their latest products.

They've learned from the past. They won't repeat that mistake.


You seem to be missing the fact that Elan has been making touch sensitive screens since the late nineties. I know, I have several of them. Not to mention that Nokia invented most of the cell technology that Apple is conveniently using without paying for. Regardless of anything else, they will still owe Nokia for the license fee, whatever that ends up being. Google may cross license, but they will NOT back down and remove touch from Android. Apple is going to have to take its knocks. They may get knocked a little or knocked hard, the courts will determine.

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