Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Apr 2010 23:18 UTC
Apple Yeah, just in case people think we forgot: Apple launched its iPad today. It's just that since the rest of the web is pretty much clogged with iPad "news" items at this point, I don't really know what to add; who'd you rather hear from, someone who owns one, or someone like me, the small orphan child pressing his face to the glass of a candy shop full of delight he can't afford (because he lives in the wrong country)? About the only meaningful item I've seen today is Engadget's iPad review, so let's take a quick look at that one.
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It's not a computer!
by chandler on Sun 4th Apr 2010 04:51 UTC
chandler
Member since:
2006-08-29

I've been trying to avoid yelling at my monitor all day as people describe the iPad as a "computer" or a "revolution in computing", when computing is pretty much the only thing you can't do on it. It's like describing a new shoe as a revolution in swimwear.

"An Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means, including without limitation through the use of a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or otherwise. No interpreted code may be downloaded or used in an Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple's Documented APIs and built-in interpreter(s)."

That's as good a description of general-purpose computing as I've ever read, and it's simply Not Allowed on the iPad. So please, everyone stop calling it a computer. Call it an appliance, call it a glorified web browser, call it an entertainment device, I don't care, but don't indulge Apple in their attempt to redefine what a computer is. Words have power; use the right ones, please.

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RE: It's not a computer!
by vodoomoth on Sun 4th Apr 2010 23:30 in reply to "It's not a computer!"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

+1.

Thank you! For shedding light on something I did not even realize! And I make a living out of software engineering! That's how much the overwhelming hype over this underwhelming and overestimated appliance can numb a mind.


An Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means, including without limitation through the use of a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or otherwise. No interpreted code may be downloaded or used in an Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple's Documented APIs and built-in interpreter(s)

No Java?

For those who read French, I posted (earlier today) a rather long comment here (are URLs authorized in comments?): http://www.giiks.com/12999-prix-de-l-ipad-devoiles/?utm_source=feed...

My user name on the page is "topdawg". In short, I was saying that I do not see any point in buying something that does not even have a USB adapter, no cam,... In the past three years, I haven't bought, except for the Nintendo DS, a single tech thing that didn't have both of USB and SD/MMC, be it a digital camera, an MP3 player or a phone. Sure, people will say none of these have Wifi. True, but at least, they allowed me to copy things from their storage unit and even to extend the capacity. Even the DRM-plagued Creative Zen does.

Anyway, I ended my comment with two questions:
1- is it possible, using the iPad, to listen to some music on a 2.0 external speakers system while reading mails at Yahoo Mail or GMail (which I could surely do, using the proper adapter, with my Nokia 6110 Navigator phone bought two years ago)?
2- (because I've read, and written! shame on me, a lot about what it does not have) what does the "magical and revolutionary" iPad have?
I'm adding one here:
3- The randomly-generated WPA2 key that I use for my home Wifi network is in a text file on my laptop. I copied the file to a USB key today when setting up an Asus EeePC netbook I recently bought. How do I transfer that key to an iPad since the only way in (unless I'm not educated enough) is through the Wifi and I need the key to get a working Wifi connection? The virtual keyboard I guess... Wow!

Is the JooJoo a possible contender?

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RE[2]: It's not a computer!
by darknexus on Mon 5th Apr 2010 02:22 in reply to "RE: It's not a computer!"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

1- is it possible, using the iPad, to listen to some music on a 2.0 external speakers system while reading mails at Yahoo Mail or GMail (which I could surely do, using the proper adapter, with my Nokia 6110 Navigator phone bought two years ago)?

Actually, yes. That is certainly possible since Apple allows multitasking for its own apps and music will play in the background. Hook up your external speakers via a standard 3.5 mm connector and you're set.

2- (because I've read, and written! shame on me, a lot about what it does not have) what does the "magical and revolutionary" iPad have?

This is the million dollar question. In a sense, it has everything the iPod Touch has with the addition of iWork (for extra, of course) and Apple's iBooks app. I'm sure there'll be more iPad-specific apps coming out, but other than that it really doesn't have anything that great.

3- The randomly-generated WPA2 key that I use for my home Wifi network is in a text file on my laptop. I copied the file to a USB key today when setting up an Asus EeePC netbook I recently bought. How do I transfer that key to an iPad since the only way in (unless I'm not educated enough) is through the Wifi and I need the key to get a working Wifi connection? The virtual keyboard I guess... Wow!

Yep since Apple, in their infinite wisdom, doesn't allow you to copy any old files to the device and even if they did it's not like you can cut/paste a Wifi key as that secure text field isn't cut/paste enabled. This isn't standard OS X, where basically every editing feature works everywhere. Manual typing it is. Pathetic, isn't it?

Is the JooJoo a possible contender?

Lol. No. It's bigger, lower res, and has no native app capabilities at all. The joo joo is a $500 12-inch web browser and nothing else, unless you want to hack it. It uses standard netbook hardware, but putting a desktop os on a tablet doesn't usually result in the best of experiences. Plus, given that it is standard netbook hardware in a smaller, thinner casing and driven by a touch screen, I'm not sure battery life would be very good.

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RE[2]: It's not a computer!
by twitterfire on Mon 5th Apr 2010 17:52 in reply to "RE: It's not a computer!"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11


No Java?


No! No Java! Java is bad! Java is not owned by Apple! What are you thinking? You may even want to download and install some Java app written for smartphones and do so by circumventing AppStore? That kind of thinking is unlawful, but thanks God, we have Steve Jobs who locked iPad and is protecting us from Java apps and from every app which doesn't come through AppStore.

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