Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Apr 2010 22:06 UTC
Games Good times, good times. Sony received a ton of deserved flak after it announced it would remove the PlayStation 3's "Install other OS" feature, despite advertising the machine with said feature, and despite promising only a few weeks earlier not to remove the feature. iPhone and PS3 hacker George "Geohot" Hotz promised to restore the feature - and less than a week later, he delivers.
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How is this legal?
by exigentsky on Wed 7th Apr 2010 23:04 UTC
exigentsky
Member since:
2005-07-09

How can Sony remove an advertised feature on a whim like this? What if car manufacturers had the same approach and started stealing your tires a few years after?

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RE: How is this legal?
by Jondice on Wed 7th Apr 2010 23:07 in reply to "How is this legal?"
Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

Not only that, some people didn't know that OtherOS was being removed when they updated, since the changelog is in no way shown when you update from the PS3. I've heard of several cases where people lost data (usually personal stuff like photos). Since the drive is encrypted, I don't think they can get their data back at the moment.

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RE[2]: How is this legal?
by Teknoenie on Thu 8th Apr 2010 01:00 in reply to "RE: How is this legal?"
Teknoenie Member since:
2007-06-07

Not only that, some people didn't know that OtherOS was being removed when they updated, since the changelog is in no way shown when you update from the PS3. I've heard of several cases where people lost data (usually personal stuff like photos). Since the drive is encrypted, I don't think they can get their data back at the moment.


This is not at all correct. If you read the update information you would have clearly seen that the OtherOS option was being removed. It was quite clear to anyone who reads what each update does. It was so clear in fact that they even mentioned that those who utilized the OtherOS option should back up their data prior to applying the patch. Those who don't read the update info prior to applying them are bound to run into these types of issues, such as data loss. It's their fault.

I was a user of the OtherOS option, mainly for CBE development, and I'm incredibly sad to see this functionality removed. Bad Sony! Bad, Bad, Bad!

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RE[2]: How is this legal?
by hansa on Thu 8th Apr 2010 15:13 in reply to "RE: How is this legal?"
hansa Member since:
2010-04-08

I did the upgrade! And I think that Sony played nice!
They tell you very clear, before the upgrade that the OtherOS function will disappear after upgrading.
And if you do not want to upgrade what you could do:
- Don't upgrade and still use the PS3 pure for the OtherOS option or
- upgrade where you get the chance to back up everything and they tell you precisely how!
The upgrade does not run before you acknowledge it twice!

And I think that the function will be back after a hard reset: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2265/ps3_how_to_factory_hard_reset/
Gr. hansa /-//-\

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RE: How is this legal?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 7th Apr 2010 23:09 in reply to "How is this legal?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It's legal because there enough people out there (even on OSNews) who believe that companies should be allowed to do whatever they want with the equipment you "bought".

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RE[2]: How is this legal?
by twitterfire on Wed 7th Apr 2010 23:23 in reply to "RE: How is this legal?"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

It's legal because there enough people out there (even on OSNews) who believe that companies should be allowed to do whatever they want with the equipment you "bought".


Not "all" companies should be allowed to do what they please with software and hardware you "bought". Just Apple Inc. should be allowed. That's a difference.

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RE[2]: How is this legal?
by toast88 on Wed 7th Apr 2010 23:26 in reply to "RE: How is this legal?"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

It's legal because there enough people out there (even on OSNews) who believe that companies should be allowed to do whatever they want with the equipment you "bought".

Hehe, true. I always have to chuckle when I read statements in the EULAs of some hardware or software which prohibit any modifications or sometimes even disallow selling your software second hand.

What all these morons in those companies never understand is the simple fact that such clauses are simply void in most European and Asian countries (I really don't know about the US, their laws are much more "enterprise-friendly").

The law is pretty simple here in Germany. Once you bought something, it's *yours* and you may do with it *whatever* you want unless you start hurling your PS3 at other people ;) .

Ok, seriously. You'd probably get sued if you start reverse-engineering a PS3 and start selling your on PS3 clone over the internet. But since the PS3 is quite a lot of high tech, the probability for that is very low.

So, again, dear Microsoft, Sony, Intel, Apple and whoever thinks who can tell us what to do with our property: F*ck off and don't touch *our* property or we will sue *you* for malicious damage of our property ;) .

Adrian

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